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[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Holodomor is a real thing that happened and was as wrong as everyone thinks. You will never undo that

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

Bengal famine, only 10 years later. It was Churchill.

[–] aliteral@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No one denies Holodomor. It happened. The funny thing is you can't fully point at it with your finger and say "it happened cause communism" but most genocides the US did can and will be pointed at with the "that's cause capitalism".

Of course it was horrible. Of course it should not happen again. And should not have happened. But it is not the gotcha you think it is.

Also, you'll surely understand that Soviet Communism in that specific period is not the only type of communism that existed, right?

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How would the holodomor have been possible without a centrally controlled food supply?

[–] aliteral@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

That is a good question. But still, not a gotcha. Communism does not mean centrally controlled food supply. A lot of man made famines have existed in the history of mankind, yet this is the only one that gets used to demonize a socio-political system. To be fair, im not invested in the history of Ukraine nor the Soviet Union to explain the details of what happened. Although it is possible that what you mention has a good amount of merit in the situation, never are this things so clear. I guess it was a factor, but how big, I can not tell right now.