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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 113 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Tbh, a walkable city would also make for nice driving because it would alleviate congestion

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 117 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Honestly at this point I want to live somewhere that’s actively hostile to cars

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If you can afford it, downtown Vancouver, BC is hostile to cars.

Parking surcharges (that specifically fund transit), just a few bridges and a couple main roads in and out of downtown.

Downtown eastside you got homeless people that give no shits and will cross the road whenever and block cars.

Downtown westside and all around downtown you have bike lanes, lots of people on bikes and many streets that you can't continue straight unless you are on a bicycle.

Central downtown has a transit mall that only buses, taxis and local deliveries can use.

Most of all you have a Costco that you can get to easier by transit, bike or walking than you can by car.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 24 points 4 months ago (4 children)

damn, a walkable Costco is impressive. Even the Costco in Stockholm is car only.

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

damn yall out here driving cars in stores

[–] uis@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Stockholm has Costco Syndrome

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

stockholm does legitimately have a reputation for trying to be an american state, they have long been mocked for aping the worst parts of america.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gotta love the 6 lane highway bulldozed through the middle of a medieval city, and the TWO ring roads. And the conservatives have cancelled the last two rail projects for Stockholm.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

the central highway is truly a baffling piece of infrastructure.

So we have this stretch of railway through stockholm that is one of the most heavily trafficked parts of the swedish rail network, it's a massive ugly bottleneck with a measly two tracks.
Let's build a highway right next to it that is TWICE AS WIDE, that sounds like just what the city and nation as a whole needs!

How anyone can look at this and not instantly conclude that the highway bridge should be converted to railway is beyond me.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

stockholm has a costco lmao? how do they manage to compete with the existing dollarstore and eko stormarknad?

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah, it recently opened like a year or two ago in Täby. I've never been to dollar store, but Ica is basically just a normal supermarket, so I can see how Costco distinguishes itself in that market.

Täby isn't really a nice place to visit if you don't have a car, though. The bike paths are shit, and I've had dickheads in American trucks rev their engines at me when I bike through there. I'd be better of going to Martin och Servera than Costco if I wanted to buy in bulk.

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

There's one being built along with (nestled in) 200 units of housing and less than a mile from 4 new buildings of community college housing, connected via foot path and bike trail, in my community, I'm so damn excited.

what part of downtown has all?

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago

"Be the change you want to see in the world."

[–] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah fuck any disabled people that depend on their own car.

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People with trouble walking, service vehicles, delivery trucks, and such are fine. Literally nobody says they shouldn’t get to drive. They also represent like .001% of city traffic.

[–] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"...actively hostile to cars"

"...disabled people that depend on their own cars"

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

you are very smart

[–] uis@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People with most disabilities can't have driver license. But they have powered wheelchairs.

[–] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's a couple of bad assumptions right there but let's put aside your narrow conception of what disabled means, you're still OK with fucking over some disabled people.

[–] Mothproof3007@programming.dev 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are disability adapted bikes that cover a wide range of physical disabilities (I've seen up to even only a single arm and head movements). I'm curious what disabilities would actually require exclusively a car for transportation and for which custom bikes wouldn't be enough, do you know of any ?

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Bikes require to keep balance. Powered wheelchairs do not.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

is the concept of a trike really that unfathomable to you?

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

There's one in the original picture too lol

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

you will find that most people use "bicycle" as a general term for basically anything of vaguely that shape and function.

no one (and i use that in the modern sense of "effectively no one", before you um ackshually me on that) says "cargo tricycle", they say "cargo bike" or "bakfiets", and bakfiets just means "cargo/box bike".

[–] Mothproof3007@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, three-wheeled bikes still count as bikes imo, they're much closer to being bikes than cars.

But I have nothing against powered wheelchair obviously, they aren't cars.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Everyone who does not have two good eyes, two arms and at least one leg can't legaly obtain driver's licese. Meanwhile powered wheelchair does not have such restrictions. Even person with one working muscle can drive powered wheelchair.

[–] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

That's a subset of disabled people & people without the use of legs or a arm can drive they just need a vehicle with special controls.powered wheelchairs don't fulfill all travel needs.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

adds twelve lanes to my stroad

One guy needs to move from the far left entrance-lane to the far right exit-lane

Causes a sixteen car pileup

Traffic clogged for miles

This happens a minimum of three days a week

Guys, cars are just more convenient, you just don't understand how to take civil engineering seriously.

[–] nawordar@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You have entrance lanes on the left‽ 😳

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Highways are fucking bananas, man. You should check out I-35 through downtown Austin. The designer put these big flying shoulders over the main lane, and it precipitated so many wrecks that the architect of the project killed himself.

[–] nawordar@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

I'm now reading that the architect suicide is an urban legend.

Can you show me some coordinates of the worst places there? I'm trying to find the place this redditor talks about, but I can't find the entrance to the highway on StreetView. 26th isn't even connected to the highway, so I presume they meant that they started driving from there.

But yeah, this highway looks horrible.

[–] JeffreyOrange@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

You can see this in the netherlands. Barely any cars on the road compared to germany. I sometimes need to deliver items there for work and it's so much nicer to drive there. Also you are always punctual because traffic is so predictable.