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[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Actually History isn't always written by the victors. After WW2 a load of german officers fled to south America and began writing books about how great they were and could have won if only they had finished developing all their wonder weapons in time. This is the origin of a lot of persistent and false memes about how advanced and brilliant the nazis supposedly were. It's history written by losers.

[–] lugal@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You talk about memes. I don't know them. I think all states, including Germany, teach the story of the Victors in school

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Actually History isn't always written by the victors... This is the origin of a lot of persistent and false memes...

You may remember history but your reading comprehension needs a little work

[–] lugal@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What does writing history mean to you? Making memes no one knows about, isn't. Making memes that enter public consciousness (as the word combination "a lot of persistent" seems to suggest or at least leave open) maybe. But what do I know, I lack basic reading skills apparently.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Writing history is more than just what's actually written down. Stories passed through word of mouth, that stick around, are a part of history a la German Scientists making themselves seems smarter after losing. Which is a reoccurring trope throughout Media.

So yes, history is sometimes 'written' by the losers

[–] Papergeist@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

The Lost Cause myth is the same thing

[–] duderium2@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Interestingly, the CIA also rescued thousands of high-profile Nazis and brought them to the USA, where they were given positions of power and authority (Operation Paperclip, Operation Bloodstone), and began teaching people that changing anything is impossible and we need to fight communism because it is evil and authoritarian and goes against human nature and always fails (not because it’s the most effective way to destroy Nazism).

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Clean Wehrmacht mythos was critical to get West Germany fully into NATO by 1955.