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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There is a difference between a war and a Genocide. Russia wants to annex Ukraine. Not murder everyone to replace it with its own population.

lmao, hilarious that you engage in the same kind of genocide denial that Israeli simps do. Almost like the only difference between you and them is what side you're on. But tell me more about how massacring civilians, kidnapping children, and deporting populations DEFINITELY isn't genocide. That's definitely not a fascist thing to defend.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Russian goal does not appear to be to wipe out the population of Ukraine but conquer their land. Or would you disagree with that?

And more importantly why doesn't Biden allow Ukraine to strike the Russian oil refineries and gas tanks?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The Russian goal does not appear to be to wipe out the population of Ukraine but conquer their land.

Ah, is that why there are mass deportations, kidnapping of children, and massacres of civilians in the already-occupied parts of Ukraine. They're trying to conquer the bits they already occupy. How wholesome! It's insane what distances you'll go to defend genocide.

And more importantly

"More importantly than whether or not there's a genocide going on"

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I see you don't have a comeback to how to actually help Ukraine so all you can do is deflect. Something about intent being important for the word Genocide right? I heard that was very important until israeli ministers started screaming they want to Genocide Palestinians from the rooftops

Did you know about the 2022 ceasefire proposal they made Zelensky reject because they were going to "support him to win the war"?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I see you don’t have a comeback to how to actually help Ukraine so all you can do is deflect.

"Deflection is when you stay on topic, and the more you stay on topic, the more deflection it is"

But tell me more about how assisting Ukrainian genocide will help Ukraine.

Something about intent being important for the word Genocide right?

Oh, so they were just accidentally kidnapping Ukrainian children, murdering Ukrainian civilians, deporting Ukrainians, and moving in Russian colonists. My bad.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You believe semantics is more important than people dying. I see.

My primary concern about Gaza is not the word Genocide but stopping it. I don't care much Biden and the Genocrats don't want to admit it is happening.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My primary concern about Gaza is not the word Genocide but stopping it.

Ah, but your primary concern about Ukraine is that it's not a genocide and you want it to continue under indefinite Russian occupation. Cool cool cool. Definitely not a fascist position to take.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you can't defend your own position and have to resort to strawmen we're done here. Libs projecting their Genocide politician on others is hilarious.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

If you can’t defend your own position

My position was, if you will remember, that you voting for Ukrainian genocide was some real evil shit. That you tried unsuccessfully to turn the conversation somewhere else is your failing, not mine. :)