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[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you just want to spread knowledge? Again, why not focus on the issues of informed consent and regret rates of the hundreds of medical interventions that are talked about much less? Why do you focus on the one intervention that's doing the best in those areas, and that is already talked about every day?

[–] Frokke@lemmings.world -5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because this post is about trans care. There are certain online ethics that kinda prohibit hijacking of posts. One of the 10k today?

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How very strange and unexpected that, even though you are very interested in informing people about regret rates and informed consent of medical interventions, you've only chosen to actually do so for one of the least problematic interventions following your criteria. I wonder why?

[–] Frokke@lemmings.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you that desperate to be a victim? You'd accuse others, very rudely, without any proof, just so you can play a game of gotcha?

In another post I have mentioned having over 2 decades of experience with troubled youth and young adults. You might find the comment, you might not, I tend to delete comments often.

In my line of work suicide of those we aim to help is a very real possibility. During those years we have lost 11 transitioned young people who explicitly mentioned their new body being a large part of the reason why they took that drastic step. They are not found in the statistics linked in this thread. Other factors did play a part, true. But those are the ones that explicitly mentioned it. A few of those mentioned explicitly how they felt under informed about the negative possibilities. They were mostly told, by people like you, online and in other trans communities, that life will be much better afterwards. Medical professionals downplayed the medical risks, complications, pain, discomfort. Oh they were mentioned, but downplayed.

The worst thing I could wish upon you: may you be treated how you treat others.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

In my line of work suicide of those we aim to help is a very real possibility. During those years we have lost 11 transitioned young people who explicitly mentioned their new body being a large part of the reason why they took that drastic step.

I don't think you are telling the truth, but in case you are: I am sorry that this happened, and that both you and the young people went through this.

They are not found in the statistics linked in this thread.

How do you know? Were all those cases not properly reported?

Other factors did play a part, true. But those are the ones that explicitly mentioned it. A few of those mentioned explicitly how they felt under informed about the negative possibilities. They were mostly told, by people like you, online and in other trans communities, that life will be much better afterwards. Medical professionals downplayed the medical risks, complications, pain, discomfort. Oh they were mentioned, but downplayed.

I sincerely hope that you reported those medical professionals for malpractice, as they apparently didn't follow the existing laws and regulations. Did you do that? What came out of it?

The worst thing I could wish upon you: may you be treated how you treat others.

How do you come to terms with the effect your own behavior has on trans people? You are asking to make transitioning even harder, even though the process is already extremely long, especially considering the danger of suicide non-transitioned trans people have. You might have saved those 11 young people from their fate, while condemning hundreds of other young people to suicide by preventing them from transitioning earlier.

Since transitioning already has such a long process before anything happens, and the statistics show a marked decrease in suicide rates while also showing extremely low levels of regret (with most regret being caused by social non-acceptance), you're asking for (and causing) more trans people to die. Sorry, but there's no way around that fact.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Can you share a single comment of yours doing this same thing for another medical intervention?