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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 71 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Same plan he made in Syria and Afghanistan. Abandon US allies in the region, hand over all local assets to hostile forces and leak intel like damn spaghetti strainer.

I wouldn't be surprised if he ordered the DoD to hanf over all the intel we have about Ukraine to Russia and withdraw all other support and recon in the area.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The USA, Iran and Russia are responsible for syrian civil war. None should have got involved in it

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Be as that may be, Trump absolutely selling out the Kurdish Militia that was a long time US ally in the region was not acceptable.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Trump absolutely selling out the Kurdish Militia

Shhh, the MSM isn't saying anything negative about the orange felon.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 12 points 4 months ago

34 time felon.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Holy shit I forgot about that.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't change the fact that imperial powers ruined syria

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Imperial powers created Syria. Modern Syria anyway. The entire Middle East has been an Imperial project since colonialism. Pretty much only the Saudis and Israel (and Iran, if you want to count it as Middle Eastern) aren't on board.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

I mean, not for lack of trying, they did stage a coup and plant the Shah of Iran as the leader for a while

[–] Apollo42@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Of course it had nothing to do with the repressive authoritarian regime killing its own people because they had the temerity to protest.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Of course the usa support rebels because they care about syrians and human life and not because they only cares about their own interest. The usa representing democracy is the number one supported of coups over the world, the country who represent human rights ignores the crimes commited by israel and is allying with saudi arabia. The countries who had revolutions without imperialist powers didn't fell into a civil war inlike all other revolutions with russia or usa interference.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The start of the Syrian civil war had nothing to do with anyone except the Syrian people being pissed off at living under the most restrictive police state in the Arab world. There were protests after a mass arrest and subsequent torture of 15 teenage boys who had spay-painted some anti-government graffiti on some walls around the city.

Assad cracked down on the protests hard, which led to people saying, "fuck this shit, time for a revolution".

Iran started helping Assad, and then the US started helping the rebels. And yeah it's a shit show now. But no, it would have kicked off without outside help.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people would still have died without outside intervention and syrian had the right to kick of the revolution against asad. I don't disagree with that but outaide intervation definitely made it a lot worse. Ben ali wasalso very brutal but due to the lack of interests from major powers the revolution in tunisia was relatively very peaceful

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Again, the context is important. Mostly that the Tunisian military refused to step in and support Wasalo, eventually forcing him to flee.

Asad on the other hand, is still very popular with his own ethnic group, and draws heavily from them to staff his military. Iran's help just made things worse.