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KEVIN ROBERTS (HERITAGE FOUNDATION PRESIDENT): In spite of all this nonsense from the left, we are going to win. We're in the process of taking this country back. No one in the audience should be despairing.

No one should be discouraged. We ought to be really encouraged by what happened yesterday. And in spite of all of the injustice, which, of course, friends and audience of this show, of our friend Steve know, we are going to prevail.

Number two, to the point of the clips and, of course, your preview of the fact that I am an early American historian and love the Constitution. That Supreme Court ruling yesterday on immunity is vital, and it's vital for a lot of reasons. But I would go to Federalist No. 70.

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 69 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Land of the free no more if you ain't a straight white christian creationist cis man.

I weep for you great America.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago
[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ironically, people fleeing persecution of the Anglican religion in England and wanting to worship God in their own way (still Puritan though) was basically the number one thing that gave America its start, and therefore formed the strongest core of its identity. You hear more about the "go west young man" type of independence loving peoples, bc it is more recent and there are TV shows depicting it made with less time intervening between its end and their construction - i.e. cowboy westerns. Shows that depict the former are much more rare though, e.g. Salem.

Until recently, the vast majority of Americans considered themselves Christian, at least in theory - like, even if they almost never went to church. And the stories we tell are full of Judeo-Christian themes of fairness and virtue and living "rightly", like King Arthurian myths (as opposed to e.g. cunning and craftiness uplifted in other parts of the world, e.g. Aladdin or most Russian tales).

But the key is: who stands between you and God? Nobody? (=freedom) Or some old, rich, landowning white man? "Nobody" implies a terrible burden of personal responsibility, somewhat akin to running your own Linux server and even having installed Arch btw (at least once sometime, for the experience if not a daily driver), whereas "big daddy corpo-king takes care of you" seems to be the philosophy that rules the current day:-(.

Translation: we gave up our freedom for the sake of convenience. And now we are all too weak pushovers to be able to stand up to what's coming next. Oh well, Rome fell too - it's not like we were going to exist forever.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 5 points 4 months ago

great but sad summary.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But the Roman Empire lasted around 1000 years, and we haven't even hit 250 yet.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 3 points 4 months ago

We are doing a speed run:-P.

Also, Rome did not have the stock market. That has to have shaved off at least 100 years right there.

Tbf, Rome actually ended, whereas for the USA we might not "end" so much as convert from a democracy into a dictator with an emperor at the top. Now, why does that sound familiar all of a sudden...?