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KEVIN ROBERTS (HERITAGE FOUNDATION PRESIDENT): In spite of all this nonsense from the left, we are going to win. We're in the process of taking this country back. No one in the audience should be despairing.

No one should be discouraged. We ought to be really encouraged by what happened yesterday. And in spite of all of the injustice, which, of course, friends and audience of this show, of our friend Steve know, we are going to prevail.

Number two, to the point of the clips and, of course, your preview of the fact that I am an early American historian and love the Constitution. That Supreme Court ruling yesterday on immunity is vital, and it's vital for a lot of reasons. But I would go to Federalist No. 70.

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 186 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For context: The Heritage Foundation is responsible for "Project 2025."

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

-Good liberals with infinite patience and calm rationality turned me from conservative, and kinda shitty guy, to centrist with empathy for others.

-Maga turned me from centrist to reliably liberal (vote for each person down ballot based on scrutiny of their merits instead of affiliation...but heavily blue leaning, unless the Dem was a knob or had a bad plan)

-P2025 turned me into VoteBlueNoMatterWho for every candidate for every election from local to president.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Brother, I don't know how your day is going. I don't know how you feel about your past self. I do know that this comment of yours made me tear up. It's easy for me to vote blue. It was harder for you to decide, and I appreciate your effort. Thank you for being my neighbor.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I asssume both of us realize 'vote blue no matter who' won't be enough. The DNC doesn't exist as a bulwark against fascism. It's only function is to operate as a hand of corporate interest. Currently the DNC is used as a way to corner us to the edge of a cliff so they can clip off the weak ones then drive the rest off the ledge.

If there was a way out, right now, it would be straight through. Except corpo rightly expect that you will cling to your way of life until the very end. Maybe if, when we were younger, they told us, "Some day you will have to make a choice. Chose to cling to your material possessions or to cling to each other. One will directly effect the other. Prepare yourself everyday until that point."

Even then, we know now 30% for sure aren't giving up their "stuff" no matter what. The rest. We will see I suppose.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, we know. What are you changing about that in the next few weeks?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I don't discourage people from voting biden. Go ahead and vote. I honestly believe there is nothing left to say about the election or there wasn't the moment we knew Trump was the nominee.

Everyone go vote. Please. You'd be stupid not to.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll vote biden all day every day. I'll vote biden today tomorrow and the next. Look around you. Pay attention. Any one who can see what I see would do the same.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

That last part is where we disagree. I've talked to people that aren't going to. They exist.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I think most informed people understand that voting for Biden isn't the cure-all. We are a car without breaks careening down a cliff side, winding, pothole-filled road slick with a fresh spill from a septic truck and we are faced with turning one direction and driving off the cliff or turning the other and staying on the rough road knowing there is at least a chance of it clearing up and hopefully offering some better intersections ahead. At least Joe's team is trying to hose off the sewage and is willing to hear you out about the asphalt-guy you know that can handle the job. The other guy's side has Ivan's Forestry Specialists on speed dial and just needs the cash advance to pay him, then he will totally be here any day to fix the roads cause he totally does that too. Also he is a pilot, so you should totally trust him that he can land the car if you go off the cliff...there sure are some nice roads down there at the bottom. Biden, or even Democrats won't fix everything. They will be conservative-lite, but the other option in our flawed system is conservative-FOREVER. The problem with your "we must all give up everything and probably go homeless to protest and rebel" is the prisoner's dilemma. We all go in 100% or we lose.... permanently. Those of us not dead set on going all-in, because we know others won't (not even debatable), want to maintain the status quo as the only good option, so we can at least fix the "we lose... permanently" part.

Or maybe I am an idiot and haven't eaten today. Those are my 3¢(inflation).