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[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 92 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Grats on Arch Linux install, S-tier distro for what it attempts to accomplish.

It feels like there needs to be a category in between conservative and paranoid. I'm probably 90% of the way over to tech paranoid but using Tor Browser and Tails is a little much.

[–] KindredAffiliate@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Grats on Arch Linux install, S-tier distro for what it attempts to accomplish.

For some reason, the best word to describe it in my mind is "fun". Just fun to learn and play with, fun to install, fun to configure and customize, and fun to daily drive. Definitely not fun when a random package update breaks your system (looking at you grub), but that hardly ever happens anymore provided you don't enable the testing repo.

Also pacman is the fastest package manager I've ever used.

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also pacman is the fastest package manager I’ve ever used.

I hope you enabled parallel downloads, that makes it fast as fuck.

[–] woof7939@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 1 year ago

Updates go brrrrrr

[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 11 points 1 year ago

Apt is very quick as well (with the nala frontend), no complaints there. I've been running Arch for the past 5 years and recently switched to Debian Stable. The "grub event" was certainly notable, but otherwise I don't think Arch is really that unstable or gimmicky. Arch itself is a very solid and dependable platform - the reason I decided to move is because I really don't need the bleeding edge packages from other projects anymore. With Flatpaks and all the rest of the /home-based package managers that are around now, I can keep a stable base system and install a couple bleeding edge packages that I want, instead of being forced to run my entire system as bleeding edge (do my printer drivers really need to make me bleed?).

Overall, I'd say the Arch experience is as high quality as the Debian experience, they just target different usecases. Neither of them is better, it's just up to the user how bloody they want their system to be.

[–] SgtThunderC_nt@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it really not that stable? I'm trying to switch from ext4 because of the built-in compression

[–] a_statistician@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I've been using it with Ubuntu and Arch with no issues for a couple of years, so ...?

[–] SgtThunderC_nt@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just lost a raid 0 array for what seems like no reason, all I even had to do was reformat and both drives are working again. It's fortunate I only use them for my steam library.

That being said I have an Ubuntu machine that's been running 4 drives in RAID 5 for like 5 years so.... Your mileage may vary?

I will stick to static partitions, I am aware btrfs and RAID don't mix well

[–] beeb@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Have you heard of our lord and saviour nixOS?

[–] SpicyTofuSoup@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Somehow mkinitcpio broke my initramfs the other day when I installed the latest microcode updates. Took me like an hour to debug the issue and boot from the fallback 😑. That’s the first time I’ve had an issue like that though. I’ve been using arch for a few years now.

[–] sean_lemmy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is another version with two more tiers

[–] substill@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please tell me there aren’t two more tiers to the right of paranoid. The last tier would just be “homemade pencils only.”

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There's one either side!

Edit: also, I'm at "Newborn Paranoid" and definitely feeling the pull towards tech paranoid. Writing this on Librewolf in Arch (btw) lol.

[–] substill@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only things I even recognize from those two are fdroid and lynx.

[–] neblem@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Most of the others were Emacs related. I'm sure someone on here is even using the new emacs client lem to read this comment.

I definitely fall in newborn paranoid too

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Its Emacs all the way down

[–] oce@jlai.lu 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also the middle should be called Tech Centrist or Tech Social Democrat, daring to use the projects from philosophical minorities is not conservative at all.

[–] original_ish_name@latte.isnot.coffee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Conservative means "not extreme"

E.g. conservative estimates

[–] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not extreme is rather moderate. Conservative estimate means there's a tendency to not change what was estimated in the past. Moderate would mean that a small change would be accepted.

[–] a_statistician@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Words can have multiple meanings - it might be best to find one that doesn't have the same baggage that conservative has, such as "risk-averse"

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

Conservatives are always trying to make themselves seem "cool and different" like the middle guy in the meme. Being anticonsumerist, pro-privacy and pro individual liberty is far from actual conservative policy goals but they obviously have to pretend otherwise.

I use arch as my main disto with Firefox but use tails and tor for "purchases"