this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2024
640 points (98.8% liked)
United States | News & Politics
7213 readers
361 users here now
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
There will be no 2028 election.
Plenty of dictators still have elections. Well, they call them elections at least.
So I guess it will at least be called an election.
This is the correct answer. GOP is already trying to capture enough secretary of state positions to ensure they always get 270 electoral votes.
Press freedom will be the first to go in that case.
You mean because the democrats will throw all the republicans contenders in prison?
I WISH they had the guts to throw all those traitors in jail
Exactly, you guys admit it and then pretend its the other guys doing it.
Did you take some kind of jujitsu class for trolls?
It's funny cause the Republicans do try to do stuff like that but it usually ends up failing cause there's nothing actually there for them to prosecute for. Look at the attempted Biden impeachment and how that floundered cause their only reason was basically well his son did bad things so that must mean Biden is connected to it. It's almost like the reason it happens to Republicans so much and is successful is because they're actually doing illegal stuff.
Joe seems to be corrupt as shit, and it would be great if they actually did real investigation like they did with russia. The problem is you guys dont listen to any sources that actually go over the evidence against him.
I mean id happily look at some sources but so far all I've heard about Biden is the stuff related to Hunter Biden which doesn't matter as he doesn't have a government job and from what I've seen he tried to tell people he could get access to his dad for them but he wasn't really able to. And the other thing I've heard was his classified documents which the difference between him and Trump was that he notified the proper authorities that he had the documents and gave them all back while Trump didn't and when confronted didn't give everything back and had to be raided.
The top one that is most obvious (and pretty much what trump was impeached for) is that he got the prosecutor fired that had an open investigation on his son. And if you want a bunch more, start looking into all the stuff on the laptop and all of the unreported income. Then you can read the article "Biden Inc".
The difference between the documents is that they said he was not competent to stand trial.
That's not a source. That's just you listing one accusation and alluding to a bunch more, but nothing at all of any substance.
I listed a bunch of things, what is the source you are wanting in particular? How about the one where Joe said he fired the prosecutor that was investigating the company giving his son a shit-ton of money? That would be same source, youtube of him saying it.
Listing things isn't a source. A source is a reputable article or document. Not just shit you list. If there is a YouTube video of him saying that, please do link it.
Which part of what I said didnt happen? This isnt controversial...
Most the information I can find on that is talking about the prosecutor being pushed to be removed because he was too soft on corruption within Ukraine. Which was a concern of the USA and Europe as that gives a way for Russia to use that corruption for control within Ukraine. So far I haven't seen any solid evidence of wrong doing on Biden's part, he was just carrying out normal pressure to further the USA's interests in the region.
Here and Here and Here and Here
Yeah I totally get it, its impossible to prove unless there are communications that they made; and they can say whatever they want as an excuse (which there are counters to) and of course the media is going to parrot those lines. But do you see how at best its a conflict of interest and its almost exactly the same thing they impeached trump for?
If you want direct evidence/testimony of corruption then you can look at tony bobilinskis testimony in front of congress, and any of the other times he has talked about it.
I think investigating it is a good idea which is what the house of representatives has been doing with its impeachment inquiry. However as of now they still haven't found any solid evidence and it seems like they probably won't. If there's evidence I'm totally on board with impeaching Biden but that applies both ways to Trump too. And in the case of Trump there are substantially more wrong things he has done and there's a lot more evidence of those things considering the number of court cases he's dealing with right now. It's like what happened with Hillary all over again, there's evidence of her doing some wrong things which people use to say Trump is a better choice even though he has many more things wrong with him. And much like with Hillary I think all of this investigation stuff is just meant to make him look bad and if Trump wins it will immediately vanish because they know they either don't really have a case against him or that at most they could give him a slap on the wrist. Either way evidence coming out during discovery from both sides would probably end up making Republicans and Trump look worse than Biden. Which is why even when they win like they did against Hillary they never really follow through.
For context, I am not a trump supporter, and I am not going to vote for him. I feel like you are being honest and actually thinking about these things, but the problem is that you are trusting the people telling you things. The idea that there are a bunch of cases against trump = there is more evidence against trump is exactly the point of all of the cases. If you look at those cases unbiased and in a little depth, you will see they dont make any sense and are targeted.
Just looking at trumps impeachment over the Ukraine call and Biden getting the prosecutor fired, they are exactly the same thing, it circumstantial evidence on both, and no one give a shit about what Biden did. Or take a look at the lack of coverage of the Bobilinski interview with congress, literally he lists a series of crimes that he says he witnessed Joe do, but the media doesnt care. I think its just important for you to just realize that you cant trust the media.
Sources or it didn't happen
What in paticular thing are you not thinking is under contention?
If you like video, you can watch Tony Bobilinski pretty much bury Joe but no one seems to care. The source for that would be youtube.
This has to be the dumbest shit I've seen anyone type in a long long time.
So dumb!