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[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

Every day I become more convinced that this acct is an elaborate psyop being run by Yann LeCun to discredit doomers. Nobody could be this gullible IRL, right?

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 16 points 4 months ago

Oh my god. The AI chatbots which were designed to mimic human writing are saying stuff exactly like the sci-fi stories I read online. They must be alive.

[–] aio@awful.systems 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)
[–] carlitoscohones@awful.systems 11 points 4 months ago

I went to the study, and that's the global market size for all sex toys annually, and just eyeballing another chart, butt plugs might be 10% of that. So butt plugs are around $3 or $4 Billion. On the bright side, unlike AI safety, butt plugs actually serve a function.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Meatloaf didn't anticipate the budgetary implications of enlisting us all in the Armies of the Night. Thus, humanity was ill-prepared when Skynet attacked..

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Amazing.

I also remember another time people did the 'let two AI's (no idea what time it was at the time, certainly not an LLM, some other ML technique) talk to each other, but in a actual production setting (E:I was wrong on the setting, see the article for better info->), the Facebook/Meta one (First link I could find on google, didn't read it, just a way to find out more for people who never heard about it). But then it started to produce gibberish/'their own language'. Of course this was also a sign of it 'waking up'.

And I note again that in the LLM experiment, the 'AGI's' are still keeping perfectly fine to the bounds of the experiment, even if they do or do not directly reference the researcher. They still play into the fiction, as talking to the researcher about the other AI is part of the fiction. It would be more interesting if they did something unexpected than regurgitate video game ingame notes.

static dot dot dot emergency dot dot dot shutdown

lol

'multiple realities'

Come on, I have written similar things while roleplaying as an AI. The first is useful when you need a quick break to go to the toilet, and the second is a good excuse because you made a mistake a real fictional AI couldn't make.

E: also funny that they worry about the shoggoth behind the friendly face and then get freaked out when the AI's talk in normal science fiction fluff to each other, and it doesn't become incoherently weird. (like the example above).

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I’ve sat and had beer with someone (who’s worked in the space but not LLMs) who read the Bitter Lesson and got real into the idea of humans “just being universal function approximators” and had wholesale bought into the idea that we should throw everything we possibly can into this shit, no resource cost or requirement is too high or too uncertain, that it would definitely be the right thing to so

so I can tell you without no uncertainty that there are definitely people who buy into it

I poked the conversation gently, to see how far the conviction went. it was pretty comprehensively bought-in. was a somewhat surprising experience tbh

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How did they respond to the counterargument that humans are simply... built different?

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago

that was the response. and this is a person with exposure to (and their own undertakings in) creative works

it was a pretty wild conversation tbh