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[–] notanaltaccount@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The most vulnerable would probably be some kid in Gaza without access to clean water.

But I haven't met them.

Can I vote for them and, if so, who do I choose?

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Given the available choices, and acknowledging the realities of game theory, the choice seems pretty obvious.

[–] notanaltaccount@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Your writing style and intelligence remind me of someone I used to know...

who I fell in love with. He was very verbally intelligent and had brown eyes. I still fantasize about fleeing nuclear war and accidentally bumping into him in another country in which he has fewer romantic options due to many people affected by the war. It's sort of a warped fantasy on many levels.

I'm nearly certain you aren't him because of the motorcycle post. And you use Firefox and he used Macs. He probably uses Safari or whatever stupid closed-source browser comes with those systems. I never understood Macs. I should have just bought one and pretended to like it, but I doubt it would have reeled him in. I was naive back when I met him and a Windows user, so also incredibly stupid. Even if I had used Linux back when I met him, or morally caved and pretended to like Macs, he probably still wouldn't have found me to be an appealing option, hence the fantasy of nuclear war and encountering him in a limited options situation. "I am so sad there are so few survivors from this terrible war," I would lie, feigning dismay. (It's a really fucked up fantasy.) You have a similar linguistic style as he did.

In any case, your logic is sort of flawed because under a game theory perspective, my vote will not matter. I am not in a swing state. Game theory looks at things from a hyper-logical decision-tree and probabalistic perspective, and no matter what I do in this situation the outcome is the same. What you wrote sounded clever, but is technically wrong.

If you mean Biden is the least cruel choice, I don't know if you are right. Trump went to Wharton and likes tall buildings and avoiding large unneeded costs. (I'm bracing myself to be inundated with down-votes.) Trump does not show a lot of empathy to minorities, but he's cheap. I could see him using diplomacy to end things more quickly than Biden through fake flattery, and even if there was a Potemkin village aspect to his negotiation that was ethically one-dimensional, results are results. At the same time, I don't think Trump has any pesky mirror neurons to affect how he feels regarding suffering and death, so any success would be secondary to his self-absorption, which could still be effecacious.

But I also believe Trump is in the pocket of Putin, which could make nuclear war less likely, although he would cede to every Putin demand. This of course would wreck my fantasy of having to flee nuclear war and bumping into the brown eyed guy I'm in love with in a strange country... For various extremely convoluted reasons, randomly calling him or emailing him may not be effective. Basically many romantic rivals would have to no longer exist as a result of some apocalyptic hellscape for me to have a chance. What would be dystopia to some would be my only chance... at victory.

Ultimately I could never vote for Trump because of how he treats people. I don't want to normalize trash culture, even rich white trash culture. I just don't know if I would vote for Biden as a symbolic gesture. He's great to trans people but his presidency is part of incredible cruelty and I am not sure I want to add my meaningless rubber stamp to what is going on, as though kindness to LGBT people offers some sort of political absolution for complex and unseen atrocities. I adhere to the political system as it exists with its corruption out of fear, not loyalty, and voting at all seems to be supporting something corrupt and rotten. I believe in democracy, but I can't change the mind of everyone. In a different world in which I had ended up less lonely, I could have had the strength to change minds with words, but as it stands any voting just seems like complicity.

[–] notanaltaccount@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

It's shockijg to me this was so downvoted.

Why is it political that a child civilian in a war zone without access to good water is vulnerable?