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Joe Biden Hits Back at The New York Times After it Tells Him to Drop Out of Race
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Nobody else in the D bench polls better against Trump.
Half of that table has no fucking data, and you’re saying that Biden is better than the competition?!?
Brand new data shows that no Democrat outperforms Biden against Trump.
Also, when asked who should replace Biden the clear favorite was Kamala Harris. So be careful what you wish for.
I would have loved to see the results if they had included any progressive possibilities in there... especially Bernie.
You've got to stop kidding yourself, most of america does not.share your/our political opinions, it feels like it when inside a bubble like on here but the wider reality of people who actually vote they're not going to win.
Still would be nice to see the results if they had been included.
Gen z and millennials are far more progressive than Gen x or boomers. The "swing vote" this election is going to be young people... And they want a progressive candidate to get excited about or they are unlikely to show up enough to defeat Trump.
It doesn't necessarily have to be Bernie, any true progressive will do... Bernie just has the most name recognition.
https://www.dataforprogress.org/insights/2024/5/30/measuring-the-swing-evaluating-the-key-voters-of-2024
So we get the same performance without concern for age, etc. what’s to lose?
Also, I didn’t see a MoE reported.
I’m not a fan of Harris, but we need to keep trump out of the WH.
We'd be trading concerns over Biden for concerns over Harris. If there is no improvement in performance, why bother?
Risk management. I’d rather someone unconnected to the administration, though.
There are significant risks to nominating Harris.
Do you not understand the power of incumbency???? Lol get a clue.
The incumbent just shit the bed on live tv and fell into the trap set by the degenerates. You can huff as much copium as you want, we’re fucked without a shakeup of some kind. Brandon has a chance, sure, especially if Trump chokes on a fucking hamberder, but that’s not a risk worth taking. Swapping him out for a charismatic leader is a risk worth taking. Now kindly fuck off.
They kinda set the trap themselves on that one. They took the risk of putting him on TV and he lost.
The previous incumbent lost during a major crisis, which is supposed to be like the most sure-fire way for a president to get re-elected.
I think the rulebook is taking a break at the moment.
Polling of hypotheticals is notoriously flaky. If a fresh D comes in as nominee, all the "have to beat Trump" talking points will still be there, and all the "this guy has dementia" talking points will be wiped away. It's hard to imagine any other nominee having negatives that could be worse than credible accusations of dementia.
Edit: except for Harris.
Yeah. Newsom is a particularly great debater. I think he would give Trump a serious whipping.
Trump will never debate Newsome. He probably won't debate Biden again.
This table is worthless
And yet it's better then takes based on vibes
No one even knows who they are. Harris and Buttigieg are the best well known and neither stand a chance.
These are extremely old polling dates, and don't reflect changes since
Biden's polls have been fairly static or even slightly improved over time.
The other Democrats have done nothing to win over new voters, so there is no reason to think they would poll better against Trump today.
Its almost like the other democrats haven't been running for office and building name recognition. I wonder why OH YEAH, DNC thought a democratic process was too divisive and would make their octogenarian look bad. Based on the debate, they sure were right! Their candidate cant take 3 steps away from a teleprompter.
Polls are meant to be moved, any of those other candidates would be in a better position than Biden within a few months.