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The original was from MSN posted by a db0 user. Hexbear and ML users argued it's fake and asked for proofs. OP got some as a non-speaker, then I researched it myself and wanted to add what I've found, but the post got deleted before I replied.

So here is an english article about that: https://khpg.org/en/1608813775

And my comment with russian language proofs.

Local news site based in his hometown about that: http://www.uezdny-gorod.ru/novosti/litseist-iz-liven-prigovoryen-voennym-sudom-k-pyati-godam-kolonii-za-uchastie-v-terroristicheskoy-or.html Federal registry information is at the bottom, so it's legal status with russian gov is verifiable.

I'd add an article from one of the oldest NGO Memorial to add to what you posted: https://memopzk.org/figurant/turbin-arsenij/ They are specialized on repressions too, but originally on rehabilitating soviet political prisoners and collecting historical data in archives. Not now, though.

I'm a native speaker and after googling around I conclude that sources that are loyal to power doesn't mention Арсений Турбин at all and many but one post in VK about his sentence are banned via the order of Генпрокуратура originated in the first day of war. More about this order that's used against maaany resources: https://roskomsvoboda.org/en/post/ban-1500-ssylok/

As a bonus: I think I've found his VK page. Name fits, city fits, soccer interests fit, age is faked by adding years to avoid age restrictions, political position is not democratic but rather pro-Wagner and anti-Putin, more like an 'angry patriots' crowd. Not a direct link due to good taste rules, but he is googlable by his name I put in bold and the end of his handle is numbers. This account is new but it's created and started posting before the war. These articles mention another status in his bio, but as it wasn't posted, I can't tell if someone changed it - yet, it also tracks with Prigo worship.

My opinion #1: The boy is real, he is charged and his process is silenced in federal news, everything posted kinda tracks. We can't verify his connection to the armed russian fighters on ukrainian side, but he doesn't like Putin and was fanboying after Prigo's macho vibes, so he could try to contact them, and then dropped it? That part of the story is told by NGOs with a big local rep, so I trust them to fill that hole.

My opinion #2: OP has probably mistaken ML instance for another one and after the mods noticed it (and proofs started to appear) they deleted the post due to their bias alone.

I've not posted there yet, so if it doesn't fit, please tell me. Also, keep in mind that he is just a 15yo boy and he's hardly thinking for himself.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 55 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The original was from MSN posted by a db0 user. Hexbear and ML users argued it’s fake and asked for proofs.

Insane, isn't it? They insist they're anti-Putin, yet act like Putin's regime behaving like an authoritarian state is some absurd and far-fetched idea.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 months ago

I guess it's easy to say while not being there or in countries directly affected by soviet or russky myr we proudly export. That's escapism from their broken system at home to the fantasy world propaganda paints. We all do it with fiction, may it be vidya or books, but that exact fandom takes it too seriously and approaches the level of delusion we see in religion zealots.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well, they claim that, but more than they are anything else. They are strictly anti-west. And criticizing something that isn't the West is pretty much out of their wheelhouse. They don't have to self-awareness to acknowledge basic realities. And feel that any attempt to criticize Putin, Xi jin ping, or the current Little Kim is always some sort of Western propaganda/psyop.

[–] Gsus4@programming.dev 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Sounds like their arch-enemies are not even the CIA and fascists from any country (they are not even that good at identifying them). What they truly fear and hate is russian dissidents and people who actually live in the Baltics, Poland and Ukraine and understand what is really going on and can deflate their skewed worldview. They don't see them as enemies, they see them as traitors.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

Not only are Baltic people traitors, but they did a non-violent revolution against their beloved much more violent revolution and that just doesn't work within their worldview, so they try to either take away their agency (USA did it!) or they try to pretend like we don't exist.