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Edit: Here's the exact same clip on the standard YouTube Watch page.

courtesy of zagorath


Brandon Sanderson the fantasy author

For those uninterested in watching a youtube short (sorry), the theory is pretty simple:

COVID and the death of theatres broke the film industry's controlled, simple and effective marketing pipeline (watch movie in theatres -> watch trailer before hand -> watch that tailer's movie in theatres ...) and so now films have the same problems books have always had which is that of finding a way to break through in a saturated market, grab people's attention and find an audience. Not being experienced with this, the film industry is floundering.

In just this clip he doesn't mention streaming and TV (perhaps he does in the full podcast), but that basically contributes to the same dynamic of saturation and noise.

Do note that Sanderson openly admits its a mostly unfounded theory.

For me personally, I'm not sure how effective the theatrical trailers have been in governing my movie watching choices for a long time. Certainly there was a time that they did. But since trailers went online (anyone remember Apple Trailers!?) it's been through YouTube and online spaces like this.

Perhaps that's relatively uncommon? Or perhaps COVID was just the straw that broke the camel's back? Or maybe there's a generational factor where now, compared to 10 years ago, the post X-Gen and "more online" demographic is relatively decisive of TV/Film sales?

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Before YouTube and social media, and for quite a few years after their advent, theater trailers were THE way to get a glimpse at an upcoming movie, and usually the ONLY way.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yea I agree. Like I said in the OP text, there may have been a long drawn out transition that is only hitting hard enough now, especially because of age demographics. If true, you’d expect that we’ve reached the point where the internet generations (millennial and younger) are the majority of the potential cinema going audience.

Which feels right.

It seems to me that 90s kid millennials and their young children are the current “mainstream”. And boomers have just shifted out of dominance in the past 5 years or so. The pandemic may have masked this shift TBH and we may have been talking about it more if it weren’t for the pandemic.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It seems to me that 90s kid millennials and their young children are the current “mainstream”. And boomers have just shifted out of dominance in the past 5 years or so

Once again, poor Gen Xers get ignored.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ha. Yea. Having a boomer generation does these sorts of things. Like both X and Y (millennial) gens have also transitioned sharply from being young (and “stupid”) to now actually old and ridiculed by younger gens. The dominance of the boomers gen in size allowed their perspective over X and Y to culturally persist.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but at least we (millennials) exist in popular culture and the public discourse. You never even hear about gen X unless it's someone pointing out how you never hear about them.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Or you sometimes hear about shitty they apparently are as people. Truly left behind.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago

Perhaps, but that would still mean Sanderson is wrong here in attributing the blame to straight-to-streaming, when it’s actually due to the rise of social media. Which has meant that for my age group (young millennials, going through teenage years through the mid-to-late ’00s to early ’10s) it’s been true the whole time we’ve been paying our own way to the movies.