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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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TracingWoodgrains launches a defense of Manifest's controversial reputation, all without betraying a basic understanding of what the word "controversial" means. (forum.effectivealtruism.org)
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...And if it weren't for that one joke by Hannibal, Bill Cosby would be very uncontroversial.

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[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Deep into that diatribe:

Some people's moral intuitions are that nonexistence is preferable to, or not obviously worse than, existence in a less-than-ideal setting. I wholly reject this intuition, and looking at the record of the persistence of life in the face of adversity, belong to a heritage of those who have, time and time again, rejected it. Life is Good.

What a disgustingly privileged thing to say. People have survived in shitty situations so therefore more children in poverty is axiomatically good? ~~This guy deserves poverty.~~ (edit: maybe that's a bit too far but I fucking hate this guy)

[–] grumpybozo@toad.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@sinedpick @sneerclub Nah, I think don’t think he ultimately means icky children living in poverty (ewww) but rather more digital humans living in computers. Unless I’m conflating him with so many flaky/evil others.

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 8 points 6 months ago

In this case, the context is definitely humans being born on earth. The entire diatribe I responded to can be summed up as "People have all kinds of ethical and moral objections to surrogacy. In this post, I dismiss all of those without an argument, and instead assign positive moral value to everything that increases the number of lives, including surrogacy." It's probably one of the dumbest things I read this week.