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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives really hate all other people, even the people they should trust.

[–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

American politics have become a death cult. Millennialism had a much deeper impact on this country than I recognized at the time.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Millennialism? I don’t think I’ve ever seen this mentioned before, can you explain?

[–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Also called Millenarianism, it refers to the belief that a major change/end of an age/apocalypse is inbound.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism

A lot of folks felt this way when the year 1999 rolled around and the "new millennium" began. For some it only got worse after September 11th 2001.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah, that makes perfect sense. There’s been so many articles recently about millennials being able to buy a house, or retire, or do whether that my mind was primed to read it with that generational context even if it didn’t make sense. Thanks for the clarification!

[–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

With over a century of vocabulary and terminology around these kind of social issues, it does get confusing in a hurry. That's why I try to stick to plain language and popular terms whenever possible.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A lot of this confusion is beneficial to the ones creating it. Confusing and poorly defined terms means more people spend time arguing rather than insisting the problems get discussed and solved in a rational way.

People in power benefit from the confusion. While we fight each other, we're not fighting them.

[–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 3 points 5 months ago

I have long held a theory that so much of the superficial orthopraxy demanded by various activist movements is intentional and designed to disrupt or retard actual action.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

According to Wikipedia, Millenarianism has been around for a long time, and it sounds like the Christian "rapture" is a good example. Your post seems to imply it's a recent thing (ie. 21st century), but maybe I'm misinterpreting what you're trying to say?

[–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not a recent thing but there was a pretty serious resurgence of it around waitforit the turn of the millennia back in 1999/2000, with a followup in 2012 when we all thought the Mayan calendar was going to run out for some reason. My observation is that these events had a deeper impact on world thinking than I realized at the time.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

there was a pretty serious resurgence of it around waitforit the turn of the millennia back in 1999/2000

I know a lot of people have that perception, but it doesn't necessarily make it true. Do you know of any studies that have looked into this?

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think they're saying the rise in "end-of-times" beliefs since the end of the 1990s has had a serious impact on American politics.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That how I interpreted it too, but has there really been that much of an increase? The Wikipedia articles they linked doesn't mention any increase at the turn of the century.