Yeah but striving for a "middle" class implies the existence of an upper and lower class. If you're already in fantasy land (uncorrupt government) why not make the fantasy as ideal as possible? Answer: for conservatives the ideal is having an upper and lower class because conservatives seem to inherently think they deserve more than other members of society, even if the reality is that they're lower class, they need the existence of an upper class so they have someone's boots to lick. Since they're just one big idea away from being upper class obviously.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but striving for a “middle” class implies the existence of an upper and lower class.

There is, and always has been. You're putting the cart before the horse. We are so far removed from removing class, it's not worth discussing. Expanding the middle class is an achievable goal, and works towards what you're talking about.

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's about as realistic as magically removing corruption in a capitalist government...

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but you can work towards reducing corruption.

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Impossible. In all two thousand years has never been done.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Reducing corruption? What are you smoking? It's happening right now in Ukraine, just off the top of my head.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are you arguing with me? I just tried to clarify the misunderstanding between you two

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't mean to seem argumentative and my response was probably better meant for the parent of your comment but yours had some things I wanted to mention too. Sorry if it seemed aggressive.

[–] like47ninjas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Wholesome AF. Enjoying the discussion.