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[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Commenting against the Lemmy narrative be like:

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How do you shout over somebody in a text forum?

[–] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

What is the Lemmy narrative from your experience?

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (12 children)

Israel bad, AI bad, police bad, Elon bad, Capitalism bad, Boeing bad, Microsoft bad, Apple bad, Facebook bad, rich people bad, landlords bad, C.E.O.s bad, ads bad, cars bad, SUVs/trucks very bad, piracy good, bikes good, uBlock Origin good, trains good, Linux good, bats good, Ukraine good, protests good, socialism good ...

[–] geophysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Linux good should have been repeated at least 5 times in that list

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago

I agree. Cannot repeat that one often enough.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago

At the very least it's much better than it used to be. So long as you're running hardware that won't make you jump through hoops to get working, and that's less common and less awful than it used to be.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago (11 children)

i can easily agree with 90% of that. The remaining 10% needs asterisks pointing towards further nuanced discussion. I'll not specify which topics go into which category.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (10 children)

I also agree with most of that, but that doesn't make it OK to downvote opinions to the contrary for no other reason than "I disagree".

If comments of different perspectives, made in good faith get downvoted to oblivion then participation is discouraged, debate gets replaced with circle jerking and Lemmy becomes a very boring and out of touch echo chamber just like Reddit.

Downvotes should only be used for comments that are off topic, factually incorrect, hateful or made in bad faith etc.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Downvotes should only be used for comments that are off topic, factually incorrect, hateful or made in bad faith etc.

So something like this comment: https://lemmy.ca/comment/9747509 Which equates not liking Elon Musk with hate groups against minorities?

Usually when people complain about something like "the Lemmy Narrative" they're usually not bringing nuanced discussion to their posts and are just upset that people aren't agreeing with their "hot takes."

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[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Shit takes get downvoted. Rational disagreements don't.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If you define a "shit take" as a comment that is factually wrong and or harmful, that's fine and I've already said that. If your idea of a "shit take" is "I don't like / disagree with your opinion" then I hope you're fine with Lemmy becoming an out of touch echo chamber and I've also already said that. Why am I having to repeat myself?

It doesn't take much browsing here to see plenty of rational disagreements that have been downvoted for failing to conform with the groupthink.

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[–] MadBigote@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Do you have an example on why any of these povs are wrong?

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No, I don't think any of those claims is entirely wrong but I don't fully agree with most of them either.

[–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago

What's this!? Complexity in your opinions!? Don't 100% agree or disagree on something based on a 3-5 word sentence?! Straight to jail.

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[–] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 12 points 5 months ago

Wow, quite an extensive list. Haven't expected that. Thanks for sharing!

Yeah, I guess there is some truth to it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Wait, aide from all the others, "Boeing bad" is just a narrative? Dude, have you been living under a rock?

[–] Barzaria@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Lol what maniac would hold opposite opinions for all of these? I like AI though.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

I like AI though.

Burn the heretic! Buuuurrrrrnnnn!

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago
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[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I've heard beans are good too.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

burn the witch

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[–] otto_von@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

To be honest, I agree with all of these. Seeme line I am at the right place.

[–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Imo the only actually divisive opinions are around tipping.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

If we were just a few years short of total collapse in a socialist or communist economic system, would it be OK to call either system bad?

I've worked for so many retail corporations that are so single minded to quarterly earning going up to push stock prices up, they don't even care how much money they actually make, and what they pay people. You can make 2mil a day, and they will fire everyone and close the store because it wasn't 2.000002mil. A lot of things are breaking.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Cows are also good. Unless they are raised in a stock yard.

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