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[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Okay, so let's call reality your mind's experiences, operating according to your mind's rules.

If you find the techniques and tools for controlling your mind, you'll have control over reality. Why wouldn't you go take that power and make the world a better place? Rejecting power over your mind's reality seems to me as nonsensical as rejecting electricity or antibiotics or eyeglasses. It's a form of primitivism, the political ideology of the Unabomber. WHY!?!?!?!

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

First, you jump to the conclusion that your mind really is a source of reality. That's a big leap, and I don't think you used Occam's razor well here. Besides, this approach is wildly oversimplified, and shouldn't be used as a proof in itself.

Second, at the time there is zero evidence of mind alteration bringing tangible change to the perceivable world. Spawn me a dragon, or teach me to spawn one, here, in this very proven plane of existence, and we'll talk.

For now, there is no evidence I actually miss out on anything.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's evidence. It's called the placebo effect.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The placebo effect is a simple psychological phenomenon affecting only the human body itself (i.e. not bringing changes to the world outside the body itself, which is literally directly regulated by the nervous system), and requiring a total of zero supernatural things.

It's just the interaction of the nervous system with various organs of the body. Aside from placebo and nocebo, this may also lead to psychosomatic disorder, and long-term stress wear and tear. Certain expectations or stressors influence the way organs are regulated, which may lead to positive or negative outcomes depending on the context.