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[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

You know the real solution to the trolley problem that is used in real life? Purposeful derailment. You let the front wheels go down one side, then flip the switch, and the back wheels follow the other path, which derails the trolley.

It either kills everyone, or saves everyone. And then you can figure out a better option as you untie your rail prisoners.

The let it burn and start over crowd are in this third category. The vote for Mickey Mouse crowd is not.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It kills the trolley passengers.

The reality is you're a actually on the rails, a billionaire is controlling the trolley, and the passengers are all ruling class.

You can vote for who controls the trolley. The trolley has a brake but they won't use it because there are profits to be had.

Derailment is the only thing that will bring about meaningful change.

[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago

One of the people you can vote for, will throw the trolley and start a revolution. The other will maintain the status quo, which is shit. A useful idiot, is still useful.

I've seen the writing on the wall for a while. I've divested and left. I am now waiting for the collapse and the quicker the better so the split of the nation and restructuring can start. Limping along on life support is not helping.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I have never heard of this and it sounds insane. You wouldn't kill everyone or no one, you'd probably kill everyone and the people on the train too. When I look up purposeful derailment the only incident I find is that crazy guy who crashed two trains into each other for fun killing some spectators.

Edit: hey more googling. You could argue it happened once and calling it a "trolley problem " is generous. The incident I'm finding was a runaway train in Australia. A runaway train is a lot different and usually they don't try to fix them like that, but by applying the brakes. It's also worth mentioning it was a "controlled" derailment and not just some guy flipping on Deja Vu as he sees if he can emulate initial D. There was no one in the area. Also in general I feel the trolley analogy has long fallen apart at this point.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago

You know the real solution to the trolley problem that is used in real life? Purposeful derailment.

Says who?

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Isn't that just multi-track drifting?