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There are few things fascists hate as much as antifascist coalitions (lemmy.world)
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[–] MetaCubed@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

iT'S TeLlInG ThAt yOu dOnT

What is it telling of exactly? Is this meant to imply that pug supports the Israeli campaign? That they're also a genocidal madperson?

If you'll humor me for a moment... What happens if progressives pull support for biden and he doesn't change his position? What is the outcome of that scenario?

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Given two ways to help Biden win the election:

  1. Pressure Biden to stop the genocide.
  2. Pressure people to support Biden even though he'll continue the genocide.

When someone chooses 2) and not 1), it's telling me that they'd rather see people accept Biden's Zionist goals than see Biden accept popular will.

[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Except your option 1 people are rife with Trump loyalists, Russian propoganda, and naive fools.

Where’s the call to the GOP to stop voting to support Israel? Oddly silent on that side.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml -5 points 4 months ago

Said like someone who's never been near an anti-Trump protest.

[–] MetaCubed@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So, while in a perfect world, I agree with you... The current problem that exists is that opposite to Biden is Trump. And while Biden is currently engaging in a performance of seeing how quickly he can erase a red line after drawing it, Trump:

  • Has on record stated that Israel must "finish the problem"
  • Is the spearhead of the project 2025 plan
  • Is also domestically terrible (to sum it up in one awful term... He's hard-line "Anti-woke")

Given the above, can you understand how, even though its a terrible, awful, disgusting decision to make, a lot of voters will want as many people as possible to still vote for Biden, despite acknowledging his terrible policy? How these voters understand what they are enabling, but they also understand that the alternative is the potential democratic collapse (project 2025) of the USA?

Edit: in addition to the above, what @jumjummy@lemmy.world also stands as needing to be answered... Where is the mass outraged call for the right to (in a non-antisemitic way) support Palestine if elected? As far as I'm concerned, ive not seen a single call to action for that side.