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Geopolitics community is just a propaganda outlet (lemmy.ca)

submitted 5 months ago by GameGod@lemmy.ca to c/main@lemmy.ca

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The sole moderator doesn't even follow their own rules: https://lemmy.ca/post/22741340?scrollToComments=true

I'll just say it - it's a Russian propaganda community. Is there any reason this community needs to exist on Lemmy.ca? Is there a rule against blatant astroturfing / propaganda / misinformation? I don't think the 5 rules in the sidebar are going to be enough to stop an army of trolls:

No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, > or xenophobia. Be respectful. Everyone should feel welcome here. No porn. Use the NSFW tag when needed. No Ads / Spamming. Bot accounts need to be flagged as such in their settings.

Maybe time to get ahead of it?

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[–] GameGod@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Like, what beyond being pro-Russian and having low-quality information do you find problematic with the community?

All I'm going to say is: Does having this community/content around, on Lemmy.CA (the defacto Canadian instance), make this a better community? Is this going to attract the audience we want on the site? Is this the type of content we want to expose that audience to?

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think the lemmy.ca admins or most of it's users want the instance to take on the responsibility/experience of being an instance where there's a prescribed view of acceptable and unacceptable (banned) content, above and beyond objectively objectionable stuff. Curb appeal as an argument doesn't sway me. But if curb appeal or who we're attracting is a concern, I'd point out that most of the posts in that community are very downvoted, so to some extent Lemmy's existing checks and balances are working as intended to limit newcomers' exposure to a less popular community

[–] GameGod@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I can respect this take. I do worry that burying problematic content isn't enough these days though. Even if only 2% of the visitors on this site see the content, all it takes is one person to believe there's a demonic child trafficking ring and then you have someone shooting up a pizza joint. Not everyone who uses the internet has all their faculties and I think that's an argument for going further than just burying the content. (I suspect we'll start seeing more pressure on YouTube and Facebook to go further than they have too with regards to problematic content like this.)

Edit: I also think that as platforms have become more strict about their community guidelines, the effectiveness of grand, overt disinformation campaigns has diminished, so bad actors' strategies are switching to more subtle, softer disinformation campaigns.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 months ago

Some random thoughts on this for a second....

Is lemmy.ca a community? Or is it just a grouping of communities?

Is lemmy.ca the community or is it all of federated lemmyverse that's the community?

I would lean towards all of lemmy being the community, since a users likely lean towards browsing all rather than local. I know the regular users I interact with are global, not just our users. They all contribute to the sense of community in a larger sense than just our instance.

Given the community feeling is maybe not specific to an instance, does every /c/ needs to contribute to that specific instances sense of community?