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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

IIRC, anarchists typically want to actually abolish police departments and replace them with a novel method of security called community defense.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it's not novel. it's what communities have done since the beginning of time.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is a fair point, but in our atomized society systems that require large amounts of interconnectivity to function are novel. Novelty isn't really a function of history so much as familiarity.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

YSK, anarchists don't want to "replace" police with community defense - they propose we actually acquire community protection while doing away with an institution whose job is to threaten our community.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I understand the distinction.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Anarchists don't want to replace a group of institutionalized and unaccountable thugs that threatens the community with anything because communities never needed a group of institutionalized and unaccountable thugs whose sole purpose is to threaten communities. So no replacement is required - what they want is the addition of community defense because that is something our communities have never had.

In fact, the first order of business for any form of community defense in our society is to protect the community from said group of institutionalized and unaccountable thugs.

Does that make it easier to understand?

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did you actually downvote me for saying that I wasn't sure what you meant by what you said, or was that someone else?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

Lol!

No... that wasn't me. I have a gang of angry liberals following me around and downvoting everything I say - if you're not appropriately hostile towards me, you get a downvote, too.