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If we had ranked choice voting across the board I might actually vote for her or another. But seeing as we only have two practical options, that's not realistic to vote for her if we expect it to fend off the worse of two voting options. In other words, voting for her doesn't help avoid Trump. It in fact draws votes away from the Biden option since she's a green option which wouldn't realistically draw any votes from the right.
Stop bending over for the duopoly. Do something about it like I am.
And what pray tell is that?
Supporting, donating, and spreading the message to friends and family about the Green party. It is the largest decent party in the US so a good base to build from. What everyone else on this site does is complain about voting for Joe Biden instead of doing anything.
Do you realistically see any possibility of the green party gaining enough traction by November to actually be a competitive option and defeat both alternative parties? Do you think it can go from 0.26% of the popular vote and 0% of the electoral college vote to obtaining a majority of 51%?
I applaud the commitment to a an ideal. But the ideal won't stop a fascist regime in the form of Trump from setting in. We who complain about voting for Biden can see that Biden isn't a good option. But he is the best chance of not getting Trump. So he begrudgingly gets a vote. I would love to live in a country that can have viable 3rd party options. But currently we aren't there. And there is too much that will have to change to make it possible to realistically be a voting option. Every journey starts with a single step and all but until we get things passed like ranked choice voting, the green party will never see a national victory.
This election is unique with weak duopoly candidates and RFK polling up to 10% in some polls. So there is a chance for the Green party, a very slim one to win but realistically could achieve 5% to gain increased federal funding for future elections.
In my view Biden's administration is just as fascist as Trump in their work to prevent a third party option. So that's why I try to build a new party, but can understand if you see his administration differently.
I can't see them as equivalent outside of that singular position though. Both suck at not creating room for a 3rd party 100%. But Trump is following a plan and colluding with others in the GOP and DOJ to topple all democracy and install a dictatorship. If that comes to fruition there won't even be two parties. It will be one party. Well, one party and a group of people oppressed by the party.
Same old story every 4 years. Trump will likely win in November, and I'll be on here gathering support for the Greens or PSLs regardless. In 2028 you will use the same argument without ever supporting another decent party.
I mean they literally have a publicly available plan... So as long as that's the plan then yes, I will vote for the party with the best chance of defeating them. If that were green, I'd vote green, if that were libertarian I'd begrudgingly vote libertarian. Currently it's democrats though.
We have to push incumbents towards legislation that benefits 3rd party options to see any real headway in the 3rd party category. Until that's in place 3rd party can never succeed on a national level. Again, looking at statistics, it's just not possible until law favors multiple party conditions.
To scare the weak willed into submitting to the duopoly.
Then make a better party more popular instead of complaining.
Why would they? They're already in office.
I can see this really won't go anywhere. My bad. Good luck with upping that 0.26% enough to be competitive.
Thanks, we will fight for you whether you like it or not.