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Hamas says it has launched a rocket attack towards the Tel Aviv area in central Israel for the first time in nearly four months. At least eight rockets were launched from the Rafah area in southern Gaza and several were intercepted, the Israeli military says. No injuries have been reported.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In all discussions I've had about this, the root of the whole issue that fractures discourse is: should Israel disappear or not?

I think not (even if the original partition plan was too utopic and inviting a disaster), so the best Palestinians will ever get is what was in the original partition agreement, which you just have to accept peacefully, not with war, war declarations make palestine lose ground e.g. 1967 borders. I'm sure if a Palestinian government (not fucking hamas) recognized Israel, they'd get their state tomorrow, but this was never accepted, sooo...

if instead ou think Israel should disappear or turn into an ungovernable fractured state like Lebanon, like hamas wants, then..."fight back to your oppressors" and you'll have endless war.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Whether it should or not, I think the fact needs to be accepted that Israel won't disappear and the question now is whether or not Palestinians get to, at the very least, have the West Bank and Gaza as an independent nation. I hope they get more than that, but Israel is not going to disappear. A two state solution is, I hope, something that will eventually be reached.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

I think the wast majority of the world agrees with this. It's even the US' official position.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I think the fact needs to be accepted that Israel won’t disappear

No it should not.

As long as the Palestinians not recognized israel, israel has no right to exist. If israel wants to gain that right it can do so by accepting a two state solution