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America’s premier pronatalists on having ‘tons of kids’ to save the world: ‘There are going to be countries of old people starving to death’ (www.theguardian.com)

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The highlight for me is coming up with some weird pseudoscience justification for why it’s okay to hit your kids.

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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Does anyone else feel like we are setting up to a near future where people who choose not to have kids are seriously discriminated against?

[–] Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's already here. I was sterilized (I don't want kids, have a SEVERE genetic disability that I'd passn on, can't afford my own house, like to sleep in, enjoy traveling, think the world is overpopulated enough, etc) and get attacked by men and women anytime I mention it.

I've apparently

"destroyed my body"
"Fucked up the only reason women exist"
"Chosen to die alone"
"Failed my country and family"
"Made a selfish decision"
"Chosen to be a slut instead of a mom"
"Become useless to any man"

The list goes on. If I change my mind, I'll adopt. There's nearly 400,000 children in the US foster care system and that number has nearly DOUBLED since Roe v Wade...

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Only failures and dissapoints are the people who attack you. Like what's the gain for them?

[–] Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Not sure. I just view it as "the trash taking itself out"

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

“Chosen to be a slut instead of a mom.” Wow. I’ve heard some madness in my time but that is a magnificent sentence that says so much more about the speaker than it ever could about you.

[–] Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I flat out write "childfree" on dating and social apps, so people think that gives them permission to attack. I've encountered a LOT of men with breeding kinks.

I think the worst was after RvW got overturned, several of my other childfree friends got rape threats because then they'd be forced to carry their psychotic fan's child. (I'm a professional cosplayer, so are the girls that got these messages)

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm watching all this US from a distance and it's just fucking....bewildering and surreal to see it go as it does

but I still remember that it happens to real people, and then to read things like this. fuck. that's so fucking grim.

[–] Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I've seen so many girls posting that if aborting a rape baby will get you the death penalty, than you might as well take the rapist out while you're at it. I'm so glad I'm sterilized.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The entire "the world is running out of people" meme is just an attempt to find a non-religious rationale to limit reproductive choice.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

i thought it's mostly repackaged great replacement at this point

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 6 months ago

porque no les dos?

[–] JackRiddle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

Yeah, when talking about certain countries and groups of people it's suddenly "oh no we are having overpopulation" and "[people in africa/asia/with a different skin colour from mine] need to stop breeding"

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 16 points 6 months ago

Yes. Alongside a resurgence in anti-lgbt stuff.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

as far as I can tell that has been the situation at every point in western history, although I see what you mean about it getting worse compared to the status quo

[–] WhollyGuacamole@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I don't even tell people that that's the reason I don't have kids. Just that me and my husband are infertile, which is true because he had a vasectomy years ago.