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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

They also control who gets elected. The popular vote for president is such a joke. It’s amazing how many people think that voting for a president is actually their choice; that every vote counts. Sure, you could argue that ~~those Super Delegates are~~ the Electoral College is supposed to vote the will of the people, but I would counter with we shouldn’t be where we are politically right now either.

Shit happens, and this is what we got.

People like Bernie Sanders will never win an election for president; especially a troublemaker such as he, nor with the way the system is currently set up. And no one is going to change the current system, because that means giving up power. And if there is one thing governments do not do: it’s give up power.

Color me cynical all you like, but I double-dog dare you to prove me wrong.

Edit: I’m an idiot and got my terminology mixed up. 🙈

[–] protist@mander.xyz 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Color me cynical all you like, but I double-dog dare you to prove me wrong.

The DNC changed the superdelegate system due to the uproar after 2016

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

🤦‍♂️ You know, I used to work in politics, so I should’ve known better. I meant Electoral College. Not Superdelegates. Thank you for bringing this up so I’d find my error.

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I pretty much agree with you. Voting just gives "them" an idea of what we will put up with.

I wish we could organize like the religious right has. With a minority position they have made amazing changes. I suspect they will destroy democracy before we're able to learn and apply their strategy.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You are right. If there is one thing that the far-right does really well, it’s organize. I’ve been grumbling for years that the Democrats should tear a page or two from the R’s playbook and learn how to figure their shit out. It’s no wonder the D’s get dicked over (pun intended) all the time.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Democrats should tear a page or two from the R’s playbook and learn how to figure their shit out.

The problem is they keep tearing out the policy pages and not the strategy pages.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The problem is their recruitment relies on sensationalism and tribalism. That doesn't work as well on the left where people actually understand, and care about policy

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

Yes and no. The Republicans have great messaging, and have had some PR savants working for them going back to the Reagan era. The Democrats are shit at talking to people. Everybody votes emotionally, but Democrats have this delusion that their side is the logical one, and makes decisions based on data and policy. Sure, data and policy influence some of those emotions, but you have to speak to voters' emotions, in terms of their values. This is why Democratic voters constantly say that they can't understand why anybody would vote Republican. Of course, you can't understand, if your analytical framework is wrong.

(Ever notice how you can tell the Republican and Democratic politicians apart almost instantly on talk shows? The R's have a self-assured energy, as if the things they say are self-evident, while the D's come across as slightly shrill and scolding. Obama was different, he had the self-assurance, which is part of the reason he did so well.)