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[–] figaro@lemdro.id 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Honestly Lemmy sucks because people here are all try-hard assholes who are incapable of seeing nuance. Anytime I comment on anything I somehow end up offending some segment of the Marxist left. Which baffles me because I'm rather far left as well, but they are too caught up in trying to prove I am an idiot to realize I'm literally on their side on 99% of topics.

It's pretty discouraging and I've kinda stopped wanting to interact here.

[–] blaine@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

My last 6 posts were removed and I was called a Russian troll for daring to suggest that Biden's support of the Palestinian genocide is going to cost him the election. I've given up on commenting and will stick to lurking going forward. As a Bernie supporter who migrated to Portland, OR after Trump won the election in 2016, it feels incredibly weird to be called an Alt-Right or Russian agitator simply for pointing out flaws in the current administration.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think you might be spending too much time in echo chambers if you think Biden's position on Palestine is what would cost him an election. Most people just do not care enough about this either way to let it affect their vote, regardless of how you and I feel about it.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You don't need a lot of people to care. Just enough to swing the election.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Swing the election? Do you mean you'd vote for Trump who has a worse opinion on Palestine? I'm not sure I follow.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't vote for Trump. And I don't think that the danger comes from people voting for Trump instead of Biden. I think it comes from people not voting at all. Supporting Israel depresses turnout, especially with young people.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ok this makes more sense. Still I just don't see it being the thing that depresses turnout, it's not even on most people's top 5 issues.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

What makes you say that?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

people here are all try-hard assholes who are incapable of seeing nuance.

I'm seeing this as more of a societal/cultural problem. I'm getting up there in years and I have never seen a culture so obtuse and ready to argue constantly and I can directly correlate it with the advent of social media and the ability for people to nurture only like-minded communities and never be challenged or have to compromise or even just think.

It's getting worse all the time, and people with insight and means are using this to influence people and create movements that would have been laughable a couple decades ago. Flat Eartherism? MAGA? Qanon? Rising tides of woman-hating young men living in their own little lonely worlds? Fucking nazis? These are the kinds of absurd trends that might have been relegated to tiny communities of social rejects, not given voice or respect by anyone. Now they're just growing mobs of people lost in their little safe-spaces losing touch with reality more and more every day.