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[–] fosho@lemmy.ca 71 points 6 months ago (5 children)

"bbbbut thuh Dems haven't done anything to EARN my vote" and other such brain dead takes from ding dongs who don't understand basic pragmatic logic.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 45 points 6 months ago (1 children)

* From dingdongs who are repeating -- accidentally or on purpose -- some bullshit that was professionally constructed to emotionally resonate and sound convincing on surface level, so that when people spread it on social media it can do its job and help Trump get elected and fuck up the country absolutely beyond recognition

[–] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 2 points 6 months ago

The reason, that you already got some upvotes for this, shows, that Lemmy has more users who are able to read more than a couple of words.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sadly they are the only voices trying to keep the Dems aim to the left.

Dems kept sliding right after coopting the middle with Clinton. Basically a Good Cop-Bad Cop routine.

Now there is no left, aside from Sanders.

Authoritarian to the left, fascist to the right, here we are.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

lol yeah, the whole concept of “earning” a vote screams unearned entitlement and narcissistic tendencies on part of the voter.

[–] Xendarq@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"The Dems aren't liberal enough so I'm going to revenge vote tRuMp"

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

These people do not exist in any significant number.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Neither of us can convince someone whose friends had their asses beat by cops at a university protesting Biden's action. Only Biden can do that, by ending the genocide.

When dems lose for not doing the things they need to do to get elected, are you going to blame the dems for not winning what should be an easy election by just doing the things the people want him to do, using all the means at his disposal, or are you going to blame every single voter in the US for not voting for a party that shows nothing but contempt for them?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I notice a certain slight tendency in your comments to talk about China, implication that aid for Taiwan was "bought" from the US congress by someone, tendency to delve into the details of tariffs and suchlike.

Quick question for you: If I protest in China against a Chinese policy I don't agree with, what happens to me?

(This isn't a whataboutism -- China doing something doesn't excuse the US police from doing a much milder version of the same thing. I don't think they should be beating or arresting protestors here either. I'm just curious how universally you apply this concern for protestors who had their asses beat.)

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Quick question for you: If I protest in China against a Chinese policy I don’t agree with, what happens to me?

Quick Answer: You can just google "site:scmp.com (or any other english language chinese news site) protestors"

You could probably find much better data if you googled the chinese word for protestors, but then you'd have to translate the results.

Even when the government wants to shut down protests, such as in HK, it's 100x more gentle than the US is. Think of how many people getting run over by cops we saw in 2020. I didn't see a single child get domed with a pepperball in Hong Kong.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 0 points 6 months ago

100x more gentle than the US is

Faaaaascinating

Also, look at all the happy Uyghurs leaving their re-education camps after the Chinese government helped boost their job opportunities. Sounds great.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Dems lose? We all lose. You people seem to forget you're fucking everyone. Your feelings don't matter, outcomes do. If you know Trump wins in this scenario, and you know there may be no more free elections, how does this "force the Dems to learn for next time?" Braindead ideological bullshit. You're a fucking cult.