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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending Sunday 12 May 2024 (awful.systems)
submitted 10 months ago by dgerard@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems
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Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post, there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] nfultz@awful.systems 8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

https://less.online/ - they couldn't be bothered to write the 5 lines of js to do their karma discount automatically

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"A Festival of Writers Who are Wrong on the Internet"

How is it possible to be so thoroughly immune to self-reflection.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 5 points 10 months ago

Vampires?

[–] carlitoscohones@awful.systems 5 points 10 months ago

Why is Patrick McKenzie attending this, I wonder?

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Seeing Cremieux Recueil will be there, does anyone know who's behind it, what's the deal with it, etc? I'm always seeing it pop up on these freaks' timelines and I imagine it's eugenics shit but I can never be bothered to dig enough to find the really incriminating stuff. It's well creepy though.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hosting entity appears to be at the bottom:

Ben Pace & the team at Lightcone Infrastructure.

Could start digging from there

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lightcone are the guys convinced they will save the future of humanity by writing and hosting the LessWrong/EA forum code.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 10 months ago

I am still curious about how well that belief will hold up under a couple hundred bucks of darknet services

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Aha! It turns out Cremieux is the r/slatestarcodex poster formerly known as /u/Tr--yPorn0 (slur dashed out), or TP0 for those who don't even want the slur in dashed-out form. A really persistent race scientist with a habit of (a) misrepresenting the papers he spammed as links (b) misrepresenting himself. He used to run a tiny blog as "Cremieux" when he was claiming to be an economist from Liechtenstein. Then he got pumped by the other race scientists. So I expect this to very much be Racist Fest.

some past hits from TP0:

his style is gish gallops and paywalled papers that turn out not to support his claims, and citing Emil Kirkegaard's pseudojournals a lot

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Googling the blog name brings up this delightful interview

https://www.jollyheretic.com/p/bad-science-vs-based-science-cremieux

Crémieux was kind enough to grant me a podcast, where we covered all manor of things Based, from the IQ of the Ashkenazis, why the Vikings were violent, the effect of selection events, and the need for anonymity in Based science.

Ah yes, anonymity, a cornerstone of the scientific method.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 3 points 10 months ago

Wow amazing, thank you. What a sicko.

[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 4 points 10 months ago

Here's another good one: https://old.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/12qbsfo/tpo_has_joined_twitter_been_tweeted_by_paul/

paywalled papers that turn out not to support his claims

My favorite tp0 moment was when someone pointed out the identical twins in an adoption study he cited were barely separated, and tp0 blocked him and left the original chart using data from the study up.

https://old.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/12qbsfo/tpo_has_joined_twitter_been_tweeted_by_paul/jgr8sxv/

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

frequent ACX commenter, Here he is on IQ and genes Very into citing OpenPsych as solid gold scientific fact. Race scientist, yes.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 5 points 10 months ago

Wow, I knew what I was in for but god that's unpleasant.

There's no clearly-articulated theory of cultural regression to the mean, but there is a genetic one, and it is consistent with the results.

Ahh, see, racism is just more intellectually convenient.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

That 'only show authors confirmed coming' button. Wtf lol.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Surprised and a bit disappointed to see patio11 attending. Gwern isn't though, lol.

[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm a bit surprised to see his name. I read "Seeing like a bank" and snippets of a few other blogposts, he didn't come off as a ghoul

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it'll be interesting to see his reaction to the room full of race scientists. I wonder how well they can hide their power level.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 10 months ago

suspicion: this is a recruitment event, and a lot of people might try to be on their best obfuscatory behaviour

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 1 points 10 months ago

I have my own thoughts on the guy, but I figured I'd send a mail and ask about his reasons. let's see I guess

[–] mlen@awful.systems 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A phrase that gains a completely different meaning once one notices that aella is attending.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 10 months ago

Wait what she is also attending? Wait, no of course she is, and also lol.

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

preview:

reality:

“how to inflate your event by pretending there's more to it” (tbh i wouldn't mind if esr would inflict his pleasant personality on that crowd; and of course the renowned philosopher agnes callard will attend)

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ESR hasn't blogged for ages,no? I believe his old blog was offline for a long time because lack of TLS/backup or something.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 3 points 10 months ago

It got a malware infection and nobody bothered fixing it. By the end its commenters were enjoying long threads entirely composed of dogwhistles.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah that was exactly what I meant amazing bullshit

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Wildbow: "you know the Empire 88 and the biotinkers were bad guys in Worm right"

[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 3 points 10 months ago

Wtf? It's like they made a sex offenders list, just nothing but libertarians and racists