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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 51 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Same interview.. “US is committed to Israel’s defense and would supply Iron Dome rocket interceptors and other defensive arms, but that if Israel goes into Rafah, we’re not going to supply the weapons and artillery shells used”. Defense secretary Austin Lloyd reiterated that same point

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 57 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ok, good? All you can do with Iron Dome is shoot down mortar rounds and slower-moving rockets (and maybe drones?) - it really only works for defense. I don't see the problem.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

In general I love the idea of the US moving more and more towards only supplying defensive munitions to countries (such as the long list of really fucked up countries we deal arms to that would surprise most people).

We could always take special action to supply offensive arms in response to justified conflicts such as in Ukraine, but let's not let authoritarians build up a stockpile of offensive capabilities from US sweat during times of peace. That's a recipe for less peace.

But by all means we should let allies buy as much defensive capabilities as they desire.

Being an ally to the US should be more associated with the benefits of protection from bullies than capacity to bully.

(And most important IMO is that we don't allow selling tech officially or privately by US corporations to enable authoritarians to abuse their own citizens. Something we very much do and I really wish we didn't.)

[–] hark@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

My issue is with the definition of defense, seeing as the US's department of war is called the department of defense and in the past israel's actions have been excused as a right to defend itself.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Israeli companies make and sell a ton of that spy tech. Probably more than the US.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I'm fine with this model. Defend them from attacks, but don't help them offensively. And leverage our defensive aid to strongarm them into not being genocidal.

[–] cyd@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago

US worded its statements carefully. They'll still provide support for all the other parts of Israel's military operations, just not for the Rafah invasion. Israel is free to shuffle things around so that it won't make a difference.