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While I nominally agree, the paradox of tolerance must also be considered, particularly considering the alarming resurgence of authoritarian and outright fascist ideology (very specifically including neo-Naziism).
No doubt. Once the beliefs are ingrained, it’s near impossible to educate. People died with Covid in hospitals still believing that it was a hoax. I’m not saying that we should hug fascists. I’m just saying it helps to understand what made them fascists. Punching Nazis is a necessity.
Yep, I think we’re on the same page.
Tangentially, a simultaneously fascinating and dismaying thing to explore is how the Israeli state got from “holocaust survivors” to “actively implementing an apartheid state”, the potential future trajectories their government and country could take if their fundamentalist/xenophobic tendencies aren’t controlled and reversed. There are frankly very good reasons why they were so hostile to all of their Arab neighbors for so long (reductively: they all wanted to genocide them pretty much immediately, so it was very much a frying pan -> fire situation for Israel’s formative years as a country)… but there are also some good reasons why those neighbors were hostile to Israel’s establishment - really, the location of the land they were granted - since it was a pretty direct artifact of western imperialism (“we’ve owned this land for a while, but we’ll give it to you”, disregarding the millennia of history and various factions and ethnicities in the region) (but that doesn’t excuse the pretty overtly genocidal rhetoric coming from most of their neighbors for a VERY long time, immediately on the heels of the Holocaust). I think there’s a LOT of lessons to be learned there, even absent a presently workable and equitable solution for the region, if people are willing to look at the situation from a holistic and objective viewpoint.
This sounds like fascist speak
Yep, the Allies were fascist.
The issue with the word fascism is that it only pertains to right leaning ideologies according to the dictionary definition. This provides liberal extremists a safe haven from negative labels as they feel free to force their views and silence opposition, which ironically seems to be what the definition of fascism SHOULD be, regardless of party
Leftists have a term for that—red fascism. (Though plenty of people just use the left/right blind “authoritarianism.”) Also, I think you mean “left extremists” not “liberal extremists.” “Liberals,” in the American sense at least, are not left, and therefore couldn’t be the left counterpart to fascism. Plus, I don’t see Stalinism sweeping the globe, so I don’t see the need for equivalent terms.
Fascism’s definition comes from its origins. Mussolini’s and Hitler’s parties were fundamentally right-wing, and so are their ideological descendents. Whether or not you like that, it’s true.
In what ways were they right wing? I guess you don’t need to answer that, I can do my own research. Just seems like taking away guns and using propaganda to put everyone against a particular group seems like what the left is wanting to do in America today.
Modern day leftists are very “if you’re not with us, you’re against us”, and “anyone who is against us is anti-human and a stain on society”.
All it takes is more time for the division to escalate and I could see Republican views being considered terrorism and grounds for going into a prison camp
Wow, maybe if I had read “On Tyranny,” by Timothy Snyder. Or “Ur Fascism,” by Umberto Eco, I’d know that left wing authoritarians share traits with the far right.
The issue is both sides think the other is the intolerant one
Yeah, but one side is objectively WAY off base.