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[–] woop_woop@lemmy.world 152 points 6 months ago (3 children)

This doesn't feel like news worth anyone's time..

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

idk, I think it's worth stopping to recognize how incredibly fucking weird it is how there's this whole segment of the population who spend an inordinate amount of their time and attention just absolutely obsessing over their hatred of trans people. Rowling is the public face of it but she's hardly alone.

[–] brad_troika@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're absolutely right, I'm just not sure why Elon Musk's opinion is what makes this news.

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just goes to show how one-note she's gotten, that even the owner of the platform who's no SJW and desperate to ingratiate himself to celebs is like, "can you give it a rest already?"

I scrolled through her feed to see how long before that was her last non-trans-related tweet and gave up after two dozen.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Not just the owner of that platform, but the very vocally anti-trans owner of the platform.

It would be like David Duke telling Nick Fuentes to stop being so racist all the time.

[–] applebusch@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

If the irrational hatred of gay people is similar at all, these people are closeted trans people inflicting their hatred of themselves and their own feelings on the world. Probably.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. I think it's worth as much time as possible letting people know that they're reading books written by a bigot to their kids.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't think most people actually care. And if it doesn't affect the reading of the book, why should they care?

My shelves are filled with authors that have questionable views. I own some books by Marquis de Sade and Yukio Mishima and those authors are extremely controversial. I own a copy of Being and Time and Heidegger is associated with Anti-Semitism and Nazism. Agatha Christie's novels are filled with casual orientalism and racism, and Houellebecq is criticized for being a sexist Islamophobe whose stories have far-right extremist views. My shelves are filled with pessimists and misanthropists and I'm quite sure many of them would share Rowling's views on transgender issues, but I have no plans to get rid of those books.

I understand why someone no longer wants to read Rowling and essentially cancels her, but at the same time I wonder if cancelling authors is any different from banning books. Should we stop reading books because their authors were not good people or is there a difference between deceased authors and modern authors who are alive to profit from booksales? Do you separate the book from the writer or is the author's personal life relevant to you?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Letting parents know gives them the choice and letting people know that someone is a bigot is not 'canceling' them.

[–] llamajester421@kbin.social 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Cancelling authors is not like banning books. Oppressing transgender voices is instead much like burning and banning books lists, Florida-style. People are very much aware that Martin Heidegger hailed the Nazis and they can read his work at their own risk. This is not the case with Rowling, who people think is reasonably skeptic towards a radical, dangerous idea. At least this is what Facebook, in contrast to Lemmy, would have you believe. If people are similarly aware that Rowling is a holocaust denier, an obsessive hatred monger in disagreement to all major scientific and medical bodies, an accolade of antisemitic conspiracy theories, and a supporter of trans genocide, then there might be a place for her on your fucking bookshelf. You know, when she is history, not a direct threat to democracy, human life and people's health care and well being.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Fr, celeb gossip section is thataway 👉