I'm certainly not defending the silencing of protest. It's just that all fascism is authoritarian, but not all authoritarianism is fascist. Fascism has a specific definition and it's a whole other degree of bad.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough. It is being used more colloquially in this case, you're right. I retract the accusation of fascism and substitute "an unjust authoritarian crackdown on the right to freedom of speech and expression, undermining the very tenets of democratic society. A national embarrassment."

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

100% agree with you then.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

would you be able to link to a page that helps describe fascism as you say: that relies on severity of consequence?

asking because whilst i agree that fascism is specific - and this doesn’t cover it - im not sure that degree of severity is part of the definition and that could be a dangerous precedent to set because the other parts of fascism about control and quashing dissent enable the severe consequences once they are present

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I usually go by Umberto Eco's Ur-Fascism essay for a definition.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism

Suppression of protest would fall under #4 "Disagreement is Treason". Under fascism it is not enough to silence opposition. They must be treated as enemies of the state and be eradicated.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 6 months ago

really appreciate you taking the effort! i see where you’re coming from with the “enemies of the state” part, and think that id agree there

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It was at a private college campus and the dean suspended all the students protesting and requested to have NYPD come remove them. In other words, the property caretaker was being a dick and had them removed from the premises.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hmmm.. well that almost sounds like capitalism in a Republic democracy. Shit, now what?

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Keep doing it until almost the entire student body is suspended, or protest off campus?

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Sounds like a plan! Can't suspend alumni, so I'm game