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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 48 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I feel like America failed older generations too. The Vietnam war comes to mind immediately.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

America has particularly failed veterans since the Revolutionary War, when soldiers weren't paid the money they were promised and given IOUs(not joking).

But every generation of American has had a better life than the previous generation until now.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Every generation up to and including boomers. Gen X, Millenials and Gen Z have had progressively worse conditions thanks mainly to boomer and older politicians pulling the ladder of social mobility up behind them in exchange for bribes from the rich and powerful.

[–] Jimbo@yiffit.net 17 points 4 months ago

That's right, America NEVER took care of the vets, even when fighting for it's own independence lmao

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

famously benedict arnold was a hero in the war for independence who kept asking congress for unpaid wages until he finally snapped and went full brit sympathizer after congress fucked around a bunch.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

With a general understanding of American history. Do you disagree?

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

it's not really about what i think, but it's an enormous claim to make, based only on your general understanding of American history.

I wonder if you dont find it a bit dismissive, and disrepectful of the challenges faced by those born into the great depression ? or into world war ii ? or those conscripted and sent to die in Vietnam ?

Surely, anyone coming of age in those times, would be entitled to think "boy, the adults have really fucked shit up for us ?"

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I'm not saying that gen Z has it the worst in all of American history. I'm saying that things peaked for boomers and progressively gets worse in either direction in time.

Every generation of Americans has had a war to fight because of the decisions of previous generations, that's a constant in American history. After WWII was Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War, Iraq, Afghanistan and I'm sure more to come.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Too bad all of the hippies got disillusioned and became CEOs. Unless I'm mistaken, every generation since has gone more to the left on aggregate. Fucking boomers.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It wasn't the same people. There's just a lot of Boomers who lie about having been a hippie because it's cool to have been a hippie now, but it was very unpopular at the time.

Mark my words, in 30 years everyone old will say they used to be a hacker.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dude I nodded stardew valley once I'm totally a hacker

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There was absolutely overlap. One of them is one of my parents.

Though I'm sure "finding Jesus" in the late 80s/early 90s didn't help.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 10 points 4 months ago

And then the war in Afghanistan too. Most just don’t want to be on the receiving end of Americas bullshit (which ironically includes Americans)

[–] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

America has never been great so I'm not sure why MAGA as a saying even exists. It's only ever been great for the ultra rich white man.