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[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He's not been perfect by any means, and is seriously bungling the Gaza situation to put it mildly, but he's absolutely been the best and most successful president in my lifetime so far, especially when it comes to making progressive steps.

Note that that doesn't mean he's great, but yeah, the bar is just absurdly low

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

As a non-American, I think Obama was a bit better, but the difference is definitely pretty marginal

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

I would have liked to see Obama without being chained by the amount of Republicans voting against him that he had, but I wonder if it would have made any difference.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago

Obama was more charismatic and better at messaging, but I think actually worse on policy.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As a non-American who was in Finance before, during and after the 2008 Crash, lets just say that by the things he chose to do after the Crash, the way he chose to do them and even more importantly the people he chose to manage those things, even though he sings like a songbird, the quality of his actions definitelly didn't match the beauty of his songs.

Incredible orator.

Also dishonest as fuck.