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[Question] Why is Matrix mentioned more often than XMPP in self hosted forums? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 6 months ago by cyclohexane@lemmy.ml to c/selfhost@lemmy.ml

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I'm looking into hosting one of these for the first time. From my limited research, XMPP seems to win in every way, which makes me think I must be missing something. Matrix is almost always mentioned as the de-facto standard, but I rarely saw arguments why it is better than XMPP?

Xmpp seems way easier to host, requiring less resources, has many more options for clients, and is simpler and thus easier to manage and reason about when something goes wrong.

So what's the deal?

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[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago

Matrix is newer, afaik it is used by more foss projects for communication than xmpp, and it has a more widely accepted standards base for things compared to xmpp, where I have often heard that it has multiple different implementations for things like voice calling and encryption which are incompatible with each other. Don't take my word on it, but I hope that at least by reading this those interested can search for the issues and whether they are valid.

But then, what do you mean by xmpp being easier to host? I'm not familiar with XMPP hosting.
Matrix requires a home server, and a database server. If you want voice calls it also needs webrtc voice infra.