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[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's terrifying if you consider the norm. Trump has something like 70+ felony counts, arguably the worst orator in history, and a verified rapist.

He's still getting around 35-40% support consistently.

It's fucking terrifying how good the Fox propaganda machine is.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Personally, I find it far more terrifying how utterly stupid and gullible the average person is.

and half of all people are even dumber.

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah the last few years since Covid especially have taught me that however utterly stupid and gullible we thought people were as you said, it turns out they are WAY stupider than we ever dreamed possible. And THAT is what is terrifying to me - I already knew people were plenty dumb so to see firsthand how badly I overestimated them...

[–] TheWoozy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Very unpopular opionion: He's a very good orator, even though he can't form a coherent sentence. He gets his points across with out actually speaking them. His followers hear him on a purely emotional level and he inspires their extreme loyalty and devotion.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When you consume talk radio, Facebook, and Fox News, it understandable that you would think he is the greatest President ever. He's not, he was the worst President ever.

[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some people process loss or being lied to in different ways. And some people take time to process that loss more than others.

Denial: The election was stolen!
Anger: We have to storm the capital!
Bargaining: We were just trying to protect our democracy.
Depression: Biden is just as bad. <----- Most people are here.
Acceptance: Trump committed election fraud and is going to prison for it

Though I think many MAGA folk will be stuck on depression for quite some time.

[–] hauntology@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of them will never get to the last stage because they would have to admit that they were wrong. They would have to admit they were duped by a con man plastered in orange make up. And they will never do that. Their egos are too fragile. They are all in on the big lie.

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Give them time. They can still make their way around to

"See? I always said he was a crook."

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's actually the first time I've heard anybody express it like that. Very interesting and somewhat hopeful.

[–] whatisallthis@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If Biden had 70 felonies would you vote for him or Trump?

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Trump wouldn't be trump if he didn't have 70 felonies though.