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I've been seeing a worrying number of these people on Lemmy lately, sharing enlightened takes including but not limited to "voting for Biden is tantamount to fascism" and "the concept of an assigned gender, or even an assigned name, at birth is transphobic" and none of them seem to be interested in reading more than the first sentence of any of my comments before writing a reply.

More often than not they reply with a concern I addressed in the comment they're replying to, without any explanation of why my argument was invalid. Some of them cannot even state their own position, instead simply repeatedly calling mine oppressive in some way.

It occurred to me just now that these interactions reminded me of nothing so much as an evangelical Christian I got into an argument with on Matrix a while ago, in which I met him 95% of the way, conceded that God might well be real and that being trans was sinful and tried to convince him not to tell that to every trans person he passed, and failed. I am 100% convinced he was trolling -- in retrospect I'm pretty sure I could've built a municipal transport system by letting people ride on top of his goalposts (that's what I get for picking a fight with a Christian at 2AM) -- and the only reason I'm not convinced these leftists on Lemmy are trolls is the sheer fucking number of them.

I made this post and what felt like half the responses fell into this category. Am I going insane?

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[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Stop trying to divide the working class against itself.

We are all working class.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I am being called a fascist for voting for a left of center politician who is not far enough left of center, and I am the one dividing the working class?

[–] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Tbh, I wouldn't think someone calling you a fascist for voting Biden should be taken seriously. Although, as an abstentionist, I disagree with your strategy. I value other ways to act and can't resolve myself to vote for this kind of politicians.

That being said, we have our estimates of what will actually stop fascists and what cannot. Voting, imo, is a strategy. If someday I'm not able to contribute meaningfully to the type of political endeavors I'm taking part in, I'll probably start voting for this kind of candidates.

My own motto would be "do as you believe us best, as long as you're trying to do something to slow down of repel the fascists. We'll see what was and wasn't effective later"

[–] eupraxia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

This is it tbh. In the vast tapestry of society we all find our own places and our own ways to contribute, and there's never just one answer. Resistance to fascism in all contexts is a good thing.

The only thing I really challenge people on is a) a shared understanding of our history and where that's put people today and b) the desire to connect with a community, support others and be supported themselves. Those are the pieces, the structure and implementation is up to others to build for themselves.

[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.today 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ten years Biden would have been called conservative.

The only reason he's not now is because of how batshit insane Republicans are now.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Democrats have markedly moved left on things like climate change, gay rights, and abortion.

Immigration policy I'll agree though, that seems to be an old Republican viewpoint for Democrats at this point, which is disappointing.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And here I'm the one who keeps getting banned from .ml for not worshipping Stalin hard enough.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 6 points 5 months ago

If you're fighting against reform and shill for China and Russia then you're acting against all of our own best interests, don't get mad when people retaliate over your bullshit.

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

This^

The more we infight the more time the billionaires have