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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately in the west we are heavily indoctrinated against socialism. Or even knowing what socialism is. While at the same time heavily apologist to groups and parties closely aligned to the Nazis and the fascists. A large group of Republican legislators and their wealthy friends wanted a fascist overthrow around the same time Hitler attempted his first coup. They were never punished nor was the party ever admonished or reformed. To this day the descendants of people likely involved are still in power.

[–] abraxas@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Socialism is when Democrats do things. Especially when they give things to people who aren't me. Doubly especially if they aren't white.

That's socialism. And Naziism.

(/s since Poe struck other people here already)

[–] CallMeByMyName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the west means America? Bc I know for a fact that me, and many of my European brothers and sisters, are well aware of the tenets of socialism, and that our various socdem governments are little more than capitalists in sheep's clothing. Also, fascism is not treated kindly here. Though tbf, also not harshly enough.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Especially in America definitely. Things are a little better in Europe. But are degrading heavily at a steady pace. But yes West generally means US sphere of influence. Because Europe and much of that is generally in what's considered globally the east in a physical sense.

It is pretty terrifying though. How few people understand that while Hitler had his beer hall putsch. Republicans here were plotting their own. And we're never punished or had any repercussions for it. They just got called out and temporarily shamed into behaving. But quickly went right back to fascist plotting. The extra sad bit being that our far left party here is actually well right of center. And generally pretty willing to work with fascist Republicans on many things.

[–] pythonoob@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The western world definitely includes Europe dude

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CallMeByMyName@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not gonna say you did, my reading comprehension might be off, but I got the impression that you implied Europe is part of the east, which is obviously silly. Also, the maps why use here does not even places us in the east, in a physical sense, but smack dab in the middle. I guess the takeaway should be, it all comes down to perspective.. Also, I appreciate your comment, my friend.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Eastern hemisphere. Western sphere of influence. But yeah. We're on the same page. I'm definitely open to being wrong though. I realized quite a while back just how indoctrinated and miseducated we Americans are. And constantly finding more to undo. Gotta keep an open mind and all.