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Crazy that doubling down and attacking everyone worked for him for nearly 8 decades, that is all he knows, and the feedback loop proved him that the more brazen he is, the better the result.
Thing is, I think for the the first time and his life this is gonna backfire hard. He could have done all this criming, he was probably fine even after the coup, and he could have gone in the sunset with his millions and his shitty consequence-free life. But he just can't help it, he's been a fucking ass for 8 decades he can't just stop. He's obviously past the point of weighting different strategies or anything, he just attacks. Federal judge? Sure. Prosecutor? Sure. Mess and impede a federal investigation? Sure. The "off" switch stopped working a long time ago. He's no longer considering the feedback from his actions. He will attack the judges and keep digging his grave until he's physically removed from society, like an asylum patient.
I haven't seen any evidence he will ever face consequences. I hope I'm wrong.
He faces 91 felony count. No offence directly to you but I see this comment a lot. This is plenty of "evidence" that he is about to pay, saying otherwise is basically denial at this point. Sure it could fail, anything can happen. But saying there is no evidence is pretending this is similar to being denounced by the media, or congress, or a civil lawsuit. This is the most concrete, evidency thing that could possibly be happening right now, in this timeline. He's being smited by the country judicial power.
I think the thing that makes people think that is he's still running around the country, amping up his cult with the wounded lamb routine. Anyone else facing 91 counts would already be behind bars. Justice had been coming for so long, most of us don't think it will ever get to the station.
It is a staggering number, but since none are for violent crimes, I wouldn't expect him to be jailed pending trial. Heck, they let Elizabeth Holmes stay out for quite a while after her conviction.
Pure speculation, but I think they're giving him rope on purpose. Rule #1 in a trial is to shut up because it makes your case harder otherwise. Intimidating the witness is definitely something that can play in his favour, but he's doing it overtly on the internet, on top of saying crazy shit that has is absolutely helping the prosecution for free.
Sure, but whether he wait in jail or not has little impact on the final verdict. People think that this is a sign of a sympathetic judge, but really the reason why they're so prudent, why it took so long, and why they're making such grand efforts to go easy on him is because they want to take absolutely 0 risks. It is all coldly planned, they're patient and he's gonna end up in a cell (not in general pop prison, but in a cell regardless, with a bed and a toilet.)
I mean, I can't tell the future, but I think I've had a good track record about trump so far. To me, it seems obvious that his power and influence already failed him. Influent people get away from it all by avoiding investigations, and/or avoiding prosecution by a sympathetic AG, and/or by making a deal with the DOJ, and/or by having the case dismissed. None of this is happening, and short of SCOTUS saving his ass (won't happen), he's out at the mercy of the jurors. There is no way out of 91 criminal charges, it is absolutely overkill.
I hope you're right. I'm generally an optimistic person, but in this, it's difficult to maintain a positive outlook anymore.
Call me when he goes to jail. That is the only thing that can possibly count as a consequence.
It's a long walk from charged to convicted, and another long walk to serving a sentence. I've seen enough 'ordinary' politicians not convicted, overturned on appeal, or otherwise nullified to have confidence that a Trump-level cult leader, with literal militia backing, will sit in a prison cell before he dies.
I'm hoping. I'm shopping for a celebration bottle. But I'm not betting my 401k.
As a group, world leaders (even former world leaders), don’t tend to face serious consequences for their actions, except, ironically enough, in the case of violent coups.
What it seems like we normally see is that they’re either put on house arrest or they leave the country and live out the rest of their years in exile. Genocidal madmen seem to get away with murder. I think Trump will, at worst, be put on house arrest. I would love nothing more for him to face serious prison time, but given how world leaders are usually treated with kid gloves, I doubt it.
Nobody can read the future, but I wonder if those put on house arrest typically face this deluge of criminal charges, or criminal charges at all. I have a feeling other members of the ruling class are not accepting trump as one of them. He's treated with kid gloves because of his supporters, not because they're protrcting him.
I think he’s saying he hasn’t seen any evidence that his past activities have lead to any repercussions for him. Not that the evidence against him now is invalid.
Yes you have. It’s just been clouded by your opinion.
No, I haven't. He keeps getting away with shit.
He hasn’t gotten away with anything…. We haven’t reached the trial stage of ANY of his indictments. Lighten up and have some patience.
He's Ronald Reagan, except this time there isn't a Nancy in place to tell the secret service to fill the pool with leaves.
He doesn't have alzheimers, people with that don't make threats to people. He's a mob boss and grifter, that's it.
First I heard about this
You guys keep forgetting that in Trumps mind he is still the rightful king of America.
Doesn't matter what he thinks he is. As long as he does the thinking in prison.