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While rebutting another post here on Lemmy, I ran into this. This says exactly what I want to say.

I am not a friend of Biden's Administration. I think they drug their feet over a variety of things ranging from holding Trump and his goons accountable for January 6th through rulemaking on issues like OTC Birth Control and abortion rights, and yes, I think he's too quick to please big business. But then I remember what the alternative is, and ... well, disappointed in Biden or not, I'm voting for him. Because my wife is a Black bisexual goth woman, four strikes under Team Pepe's tent. And I have my own strikes for marrying her as a White dude, and respecting her right to not have kids since she doesn't want them is another strike against me. And I care about my Non-Christian, Gay, Transgender, and Minority friends, and will never willingly subject them to Team Pepe.

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[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Have you considered that leftists have simply done a poor job of working for moderates' votes?

This is a two way street. Progressives don't get moderate votes for granted either, and I say that as a progressive. Perhaps part of the reason why progressives have struggled is because the loud minority would rather talk shit on everyone else instead trying to convince them.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Have you considered that leftists have simply done a poor job of working for moderates’ votes?

Have you considered moderates and liberals have no interest in moving left and will continue to expect our votes while making no material compromises?

This is a two way street. Progressives don’t get moderate votes for granted either, and I say that as a progressive. Perhaps part of the reason why progressives have struggled is because the loud minority would rather talk shit on everyone else instead trying to convince them.

I'm fine with this if that's what you want. Get Biden re-elected without us. If you fail take full responsibility.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you actually care about progressive causes, or do you just want to be right and win one over against the moderates and centrists, yell at them and feel good about yourself?

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Lol are you worried we feel good about ourselves? Suicide rates are at record highs. Don't you worry about us feeling good. We don't.

That doesn't change facts though. Moderates, centerists, liberals or whatever else they want to call themselves are the majority of the party. Millions of them voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries over the numerous better options. We are all in this position because of their decisions. They are responsible for what's happening.