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Overall, 39% of U.S. adults say they are "extremely proud" to be American in the most recent poll.

Meanwhile, only 18% of those aged 18-34 said the same, compared to 40% of those aged 35-54 and 50% of those 55 and over.

18% is still too high. As Obama's pastor said, God damn America! Americans have very little to be proud of at this point.

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[–] zencat@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I thought we were living in 2023. Why be proud of coincidence to happen to born in a location? Feel lucky compared to other locations, maybe that makes more sense.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've never understood it. Especially when that location gives you privilege over people in other places. You're proud because you were born in a wealthy country due to no control of your own? Fuck your pride, there are people starving to death. Feeling lucky you're not one of them, fine. Being proud of it? That makes you an asshole.

[–] Lemmylaugh@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess the other way to think is. You should be proud America helped in developing the internet, uk for penicillin, Greece for democracy etc. what’s wrong in that?

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] unconsciousvoidling@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t forget lots of people have nuclear bombs now… that’s pretty cool.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What does that have to do with pizza.

[–] Monkeyhog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can cook a pizza very fast in an atomic blast.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

there is an optimal distance from the grocery store, where a nuclear blast would cook the frozen pizza section to perfection

[–] unconsciousvoidling@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I’m going to let you decide.

[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's conceivable that one would be proud of their country for the actions their country takes, both domestic and/or world stage. Like I'm sure the people living in those Scandinavian where a vast majority of their country is healthy, happy, and even their criminals are treated with dignity and respect can be proud of how their country has turned out.

I don't think it's a common interpretation to feel self-directed pride due to one's country. Unless, maybe, you're the president or someone who makes actual decisions for the country.

[–] LexiconDrexicon@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've met plenty of people from Africa: Kenya, Ghana, Mozambique, Sudan, Ethiopia; who are great friends and colleagues to this day from my days at NASA JPL

Incredibly brilliant people live outside of Europe too

[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do not mean to be dense but I don't follow how your comment applies to mine.

[–] LexiconDrexicon@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

European Defaultism is inherently racist, and it's a constant problem on the internet with left-wing people who pretend not to be racist, but loathe people of color and the countries they come from, only ever referencing white European countries as some sort of fake "utopia" that doesn't really exist. It's one of the most common forms of racism on the internet

[–] DreamerOfImprobableDreams@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep, so many times Americans online say "the rest of the world" when what they actually mean is "Western and Northern Europe". It's so frustrating, and like you said more than a touch racist (usually unintentionally so, but that doesn't make it any less shitty).

[–] hh93@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

As a German punk song said: "If you have nothing else to be proud of you can always be proud of your country"

[–] darth_helmet@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I do feel extremely fortunate to be American, but yeah, it doesn’t really seem like we’ve done anything worth being proud of as a nation since… ww2? That was a fucking while ago.