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[–] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Seems that everyone forgets they were kids once . I mean, we were not born adults and intolerant, right?...

[–] RealEarthHuman@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's irrelevant. Yes, we were all kids once. That doesn't make children any less annoying to travel with.

[–] dopeshark@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I used to think that way until I had my own baby. I understand the parents a lot more now. We don't bring our babies in flights/places to annoy anyone (some parents might do it, Idk :v). It's a complicated situation where we want to stay with our loved ones and at the same time don't be yelled by strangers who can't handle baby noises, trust us, we try to calm them down, if we could, babies wouldn't annoy so much, but they kinda have a mind of it's own 🙂 (stubbornness at its peak) I don't expect anything to change, specially in the terms lf having patience with strangers, but... idk :v

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think perhaps you misunderstand. Most people don't think parents bring their kids along to deliberately disrupt travel. At least, I certainly hope that's not what people think.

But, intent is irrelevant. It doesn't stop it being annoying for some/many people.

As for the picture here. I suspect the reason more people are looking this way than usual. It looks to be a business class cabin. I know many people book business class because it more likely puts you at some distance from the noisier cabins. This looks like they probably have a dedicated business class boarding door. So they likely realise they're coming to sit in the same cabin.

If you book in economy, you're used to and expect it more, I think.

[–] dopeshark@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The main point here was: parents wants their children to be quiet as much as strangers do

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 8 points 1 year ago

Yes, and I'm agreeing with you. But the animosity is a general illogical (but human) thinking of "Why did you bring them on MY flight?"

Like I say, when people reflect, they're not angry at the people, they're angry at the situation they're in. At least, I hope that's what normal people are doing.

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

here's a solution:

don't take planes for a few years until the child doesn't cry for no reason anymore

[–] riceandbeans161@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

just stay home then

you chose to have children, in this day and age where all they’ll ever know is suffering and pain

so don’t make everyone else’s life worse because you just had to creampie someone.

[–] Blank@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, we're not all despondent nihilists, hell bent on self fulfilling prophecies of negligent apocalypse incapable of empathy and compassion for those who still gently carry that same flame that brought us all here, not yet lulled like so many into a dark shroud of self doubt and loathing by gluttonous corporations who grow fat on the grief and despair of those who are content to take what is given and slip through life soundless and meak, refusing to create change, however individual, however small, so sure that three hundred thousand years of humanity is unquestionably doomed to the darkness you choose to wallow in.

Some of us want to fight and we love our kids (and yours) and this world, and yes, we even love you nihilists, and we'll fight for you too.

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

and we'll fight for you too.

how will you fight for nihilists?

[–] RoquetteQueen@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Or like, you could stay home if normal things that happen in public bother you so much.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And you think you didn't annoy the fuck out of your own parents when you were one?

[–] 3TH4Li4@feddit.ch 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's irrelevant. Yes, we were all kids once. That doesn't make children any less annoying to travel with. Source: RealEarthHuman

[–] Fjaeger@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tbh, I don't have a single memory from when I was an infant.

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most babies are born crying and yelling for a manager, they're just bad at forming sentences.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

That's so true lol

[–] crossal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it a Sync problem or a Lemmy problem that comments seem to be in wrong threads? 🤔

[–] minikieff@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Fine in Jerboa.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

One of the best things about moving here from the bad place was how their senseless, rabid hatred of young people didn't carry over. It's heartbreaking to see sentiments like this starting to spread.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Come on. It's not that bad. Plus "maybe don't take babies on plane trips" doesn't equal "kill all babies" or "fuck Dem kids". There are many subtle levels.

[–] doom_and_gloom@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

As an antinatalist, this comment feels very unwelcoming of me - I'm sad to see the hostility was carried here with the migration.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I definitely recommend revisiting this post about 12 hrs later. It's kind of wild in here. Saw a comment with 19 upvotes referring to children as "cum pets."

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I don't think I could bear it. Activism for the rights and freedoms of young people has been such a big part of my life for such a long time that that kind of anti-child attitude burns my soul.

Except people don't hate the babies for screaming on the plane. They blame the parents for bringing them on the plane.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

I was never a kid on a plane, because I don't have bad parents.

[–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes but they chose to have children

[–] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Not anymore in some states.