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The Vatican on Monday declared gender-affirming surgery and surrogacy as grave violations of human dignity, putting them on par with abortion and euthanasia as practices that reject God’s plan for human life.

The Vatican’s doctrine office issued “Infinite Dignity,” a 20-page declaration that has been in the works for five years. After substantial revision in recent months, it was approved March 25 by Pope Francis, who ordered its publication.

In its most eagerly anticipated section, the Vatican repeated its rejection of “gender theory,” or the idea that one’s gender can be changed. It said God created man and woman as biologically different, separate beings, and said people must not tinker with that plan or try to “make oneself God.”

“It follows that any sex-change intervention, as a rule, risks threatening the unique dignity the person has received from the moment of conception,” the document said.

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Fuck Pope Francis. Love that he said "no its okay to do genital surgery on babies (literally less than 2 years old) if they don't match what we decided was right for them". Intersex people can just go fuck themselves in the Pope's view I guess.

0 fucking consistency to any of their bullshit rhetoric. I think God's core message is actually to shut the fuck up and let medical professionals address people's health problems.

GRS literally saved my life. I would literally be dead if not for it. Transitioning allowed me to live a happy, fulfilled life. Anyone who tries to say that I shouldn't have been able to transition, or should be forced to detransition, is unironically literally saying that I should be fucking dead. No part of me is a man. If God existed, then me as I am today was always his plan and design for me. Because otherwise he's just a fucking asshole who literally created me just to suffer and die. If such a God existed I would have no qualms openly defying his creation, because no human being should be driven to suicide over something that real medical treatments exist for.

“ideological colonization”

The unbelievable fucking audacity for the catholic God damn church to accuse trans people of colonizing is so fucking wild. Such an unbelievable thing to say as someone who's the head of an organization that goes around the world "converting people from their heathen religions to Christianity". But somehow spreadings trans rights to be themselves and receive medical treatments that save their lives is "colonization". I'll tell that to the tens of thousands of dead native children buried outside catholic residential schools.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Glad you are now happy with yourself. Indeed, how should anyone but yourself tell you who you are?

Adults of sound mind should have the right to do to their body what they wish for whatever reason they wish. It's nobody else's business. But we can't expect most ingrained religions or conservatives to accept this.

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 7 months ago

Perhaps, then, we shouldn't accept conservatives or their religions.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The problem is that millions of people think that the Pope has a direct line to their god and if the Pope says being trans is in violation of their god's plan, they're not going to be good to trans people and some religious trans people, especially the ones who aren't out, will be driven further into the closet due to the self-hate.

The whole idea of a high pontiff is pretty terrifying. Look at the Crusades. How many people were killed because the Pope said to go kill them and people following him did what he ordered? There's well over a billion Catholics. If the Pope said to rise up and kill and even 1% of them followed him, the bloodbath would be enormous.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Organized religion was a huge scam. Like our own bodies, it should be something personal or to show off at a dedicated club.

[–] RatBin@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Prior to that people also used to attempt it on their own dying miserably in their way to Jerusalem. What they did was just giving a political form to a preexisting movement.