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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

67-year-old At $1,200 a month, her pension doesn’t even cover her housing needs.

I don't know her circumstances, but at her age (and generation), she should have already paid off her mortgage 20 years ago. $1200 mortgage-free would be like retiring like a millionaire! Or at least, that's how the "old way" was set up.

I guess she's experiencing what the current, and future generations, will have to experience. And that makes me incredibly anxious. 😱

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know her circumstances, but at her age (and generation), she should have already paid off her mortgage 20 years ago.

A lot of boomers were poor. There's no guarantee she owned a house or had the money to save a significant amount.

$1200 mortgage-free would be like retiring like a millionaire!

If she's paid off her home, property taxes would be around $4,800 ($400/mo). Say another couple hundred bucks for utilities. Suddenly she's living on $150/week.

The median rent is $1,900. That's rough on $1,200/mo.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If she’s paid off her home, property taxes would be around $4,800 ($400/mo).

In fairness, no retired old woman is expected to live alone in a house big enough to warrant a $4800 property tax. The fact that she's "only" paying $1200 in rent tells me that she's not in an expensive area to start with.

The idea, or at least, the ideal, is to either downsize or move into a retirement home when you're done working. If your mortgage is paid off, then you'd expect to make $400,000 - over $1,000,000 for any type of home.

But really, the thought that any person her age would need to struggle just looks bad on the country. This isn't how it's supposed to be.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't it say that $1,200 doesn't cover her housing needs?

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yup, the article suggests her rent is ~$1,700:

At $1,200 a month, her pension doesn’t even cover her housing needs.

“I’m short like $500 just for the rent,”

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, I missed understood that.

Does she not also get the Guaranteed Income Supplement? She certainly qualifies based on her age and income <$21,000 a year. That would get her an extra $1000 a month.

said she started collecting her pension when she was 60 but kept working until she was 65.

I might also be wrong about this, but doesn't that majorly screw you over? To collect your pension before 65?

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I wish the article had more details about her situation. I don't know when she's talking about her "pension" if she's talking about her total income, her QPP (maybe including her OAS & GIS?), her private pension, or something else.

I might also be wrong about this, but doesn’t that majorly screw you over? To collect your pension before 65?

This articles lays it out pretty well. It's highly dependent on your personal situation, how long you think you'll live. I do question her choice to start collecting at 60, but we don't have enough info to judge if this was financially prudent, short-sighted, or just desperate.

[–] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At 67 most of us will still be working, if (and that's a BIG if) we ever retire at all

[–] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who the fuck gives me a job when I am 67?

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Walmart, McDonald's...the same kinds of jobs people say "shouldn't pay enough to live on"

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Governments it seems

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's honestly my biggest fear. What's the point of working 45+ years, and not even have enough money left to enjoy the approx. 15 years in the worst health of your life without needing to work?

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Providing shareholder value, mostly.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

The article states she rents:

At $1,200 a month, her pension doesn’t even cover her housing needs.

“I’m short like $500 just for the rent,”