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He Infiltrated a Notorious White Nationalist Group. Now, He’s Being Sued for Exposing Them
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I agree these people are bad, but if you're on the left at a protest, hide your face also. It's not worth exposing your identity to potential employers or the police. Hiding your identity isn't just a fascist thing. Everyone should be doing it.
I understand that there are cameras everywhere now and that some of my views could be held against me by asshole bigots, but I have nothing to hide about my brand of politics. I will state them proudly because I believe they are just.
Now, if the argument is that fascists might dox and harass or harm me or my loved ones, then I might consider it. But I'm not influential in any movements so I don't consider myself a target.
ETA: Oh snap, he's the one who leaked the 400GB torrent of internal files. I've had that on a permanent seed. Always lifts my spirits when I spot any activity on it. You can find the torrent with a quick search if you weren't already aware of it. I've got gigabit fiber, so feel free to grab a copy and help expose these shitheads.
ETA2: I did a quick search for a GoFundMe for this guy's legal expenses and found none. If I start one, do folks think there will be significant interest on the Left?
Many people with just causes have been attacked, by right wing extremists or the police. The police are not our friends. It won't be an issue for most people, but I still think most should protect their identity. The more people doing so makes it harder to identify anyone.
I'm not sure on the rules on it here, but you should link your torrent, unless you think it'd hurt.
Happily: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2c87816e4c81990fb25bbca43dd8d578eaa55886&dn=patriotfront&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.to%3A2920&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969
Here's the original download: https://vault.unicornriot.ninja/patriotfrontleaks/patriotfront-repack.torrent
Here's where I got that: https://unicornriot.ninja/2022/patriot-front-fascist-leak-exposes-nationwide-racist-campaigns/
To hell with these people.
Oh, like how a bunch of the protest organizers for the Ferguson unrest ended up dead?
Never shame a comrade for hiding their face while doing a good deed. That's my approach.
The powers that be, the status quo, the owners of the cameras on every corner - they tend to see us as enemies at best, terrorists at worst. I'd love to see a transparent world but right now privacy is essential for activists imo.
When anarchists and tankies are dressed that way at protests, it isn't possible to tell whose side they are on. Are they there for civil rights, or are they right wingers (or even undercover cops?)
I also don't buy the argument you guys make good protection at protests. Against who? The cops? Every person who goes to a civil rights protest knows the history, they know the risks, and they go anyway.
Anarchists and tankies should not be grouped together.
Yes, protection from the cops, and yes everyone knows the risks. Because they know the risks, they should take precautions. They should know cops will target them, so they shouldn't willingly give up their identity.
You guys are the protection from cops? Brother, they dress up like you to throw bricks through windows as excuse to go after the rest of us.
Now you want us dress like you so that the media can then take the cops side when the fighting starts?
You are not our protection and we are not your cover.
When have they needed an excuse? I'm not saying everyone needs to be dressed in black block or anything, but don't just give away anonymity for no reason. They'll abuse your self-righteous attitude and it won't protect you.
The more of us willing to drop the anonymous organizing, the safer it becomes for those of us who aren't anonymous.