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Does anyone else remember when "they" broke up the anti-work movement on reddit by putting a mod on fox news then dividing the community by creating the work reform sub? (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Daft_ish@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I some times think about it and how shitty people are

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[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Eliminating work wouldn't actually be enjoyable.

We just need to reform society so that people aren't required to be employed to survive.

Humans inherently like to work and be productive. The problem isn't working, it's employment under shitty companies.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I've had this argument too many times with newcomers to antiwork that I'm not going to do it again with you. But ask yourself this: If people so desperately want to work, why do they dream about winning the lottery so they don't have to? Why do they save up their entire lives to enjoy their golden years not working?

Stop looking at this from the bottom of a 6,000 year old hole that tells you that you need to justify your existence to your superiors.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I said people want to work. I explicitly said that the problem is employment, which is not the same thing as work, so I don't know what "my superiors" has to do with this.

Work can look like a lot of different things. Cooking, gardening, producing art, building things, leading people, building or supporting communities. Even training in and playing sports is "work". (There's ridiculous amounts of money there in the world of sports, and athletes are compensated for their time, including that spent training, so it's really not that strange when you think about it)

Humans are built to enjoy feeling productive.

How would you spend your retirement? Many people re-enter the workforce. Many people volunteer their time to various organizations.

Even if your idea of a perfect retirement involves endless consumption of entertainment, I'd argue that a lot of entertainment effectively simulates various kinds of work. Video games are a prime example.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You totally didn't read the first sentence

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Yeah, because you didn't understand what I said.