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TIL lemmy has a traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns community (lemmy.ca)

submitted 7 months ago by clumsy_cat@beehaw.org to c/lgbtq_plus@beehaw.org

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[–] kristina@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

doesnt matter, im specifically referring to a trans community on hexbear, you can make an account on lemmy.ml to access traa. if you look at removals the only thing we've removed is transphobia. hexbear has explicitly defed from dozens of instances because they are harbingers of transphobia and harass transgender people. there is a reason why almost half of the site is populated by trans users.

and how is 'no fascists' a bad rule?

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Hexbear was defeded by many instances, both because of the tankie vibe, and because the nice people of Hexbear went on to be not-nice on other instances. Reading their CoC now, they seem to have added a rule about the latter. Still...

The first contradiction stems from the set of terms {"Moscow", "no fascists", "LGBT"}, it conjures images like:

Putin's rule, and procreation camps to increase the availability of cannon fodder.
Videos of gay couples holding hands in the center of Moscow, getting insulted and spit on by random passerbys.

Other contradictions are:

US and UK putting sanctions on Russia, and the other way around, making "legal in" (US ∩ UK ∩ Moscow) ≈ ∅.
{"Leftist", "no fascists", "vegan"} vs. China/USSR/Putin, and in particular dog farms or the "if it moves, then we eat it" saying.

No rule alone is exactly wrong; the combination of them is a WTF.

Keep in mind that when accessing that community, you're beholden to both your own and the remote instance's rules. Sometimes, those are not compatible.

[–] kristina@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

youre very in your own head about these ideas. perhaps you have been told these things and have not investigated yourself. you are not immune to propaganda.

The first contradiction stems from the set of terms {“Moscow”, “no fascists”, “LGBT”}, it conjures images like:

the moscow time thing is a joke, theres a lot of people that genuinely think hexbear is on putins payroll. for the record, historically the trans community has even been decried as soviet and russian infiltrators, as far back as the 50s and 60s

Videos of gay couples holding hands in the center of Moscow, getting insulted and spit on by random passerbys.

i have gone into my experience dealing with russia on hexbear in the past. im the head mod of c/traa on hexbear. i have personally engaged in (now) highly illegal acts in russia, largely to do with helping trans refugees escape to czechia and finland, draft dodging, and getting HRT to people along the border with china. you might be surprised to hear this, but the average young russian communist is very trans supportive and very helpful to the trans community at large in russia. so many have helped get trans people out of volatile areas like chechnya and donbas.

“if it moves, then we eat it” saying.

can you explain this

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm afraid the rhetoric pattern of "neg, victimhoood, authority" is not gonna work here.

Maybe that is closer to what Russian citizens/refugees are used to, or even need, and maybe that makes Hexbear useful... but it's far from the clearer dialectic that those already fed up with rhetoric would willingly engage with.

That means, any "investigation" is going to be limited to a cursory glance, checking the rules, and a few interactions like this one... after which, if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck... I like tangerine duck.(¹)

The saying is about China, which is friends with Russia right now, and is notoriously "non-vegan".

Overall, if what you're saying is that Hexbear is actually anti-Putin, and pro-idealized communism... cool, but it still doesn't look like it, whether that be by design or not.

CW: Food

[¹: This is actually true. I'm a "pragmatic" vegan in that I will pick vegan when given a choice, but also eat anything non-toxic, ranging from horse steak tartare, to bull testicles, century eggs, or tangerine duck.]

[–] kristina@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I’m afraid the rhetoric pattern of “neg, victimhoood, authority” is not gonna work here.

no, its just quite obvious you havent investigated, it is not 'negging', i am not giving you a compliment, and i am not manipulating you, i am simply suggesting you use your own two eyes to investigate something beyond a cursory glance. being someone with skin in the game and personal experience has nothing to do with a call to authority, i am explaining to you my history and viewpoints, which are relevant. and saying im acting like a victim makes you sound like a chud.

as you can see on our ongoing survey, which was done publicly, around half the site is trans. over half the moderation is trans. do you truly think that we're all in on putin, who labels transgender people as terrorists for existing?

are you trans yourself? im wondering what your personal experiences are